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What do you use to "cover" your flat layout surfaces?

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What do you use to "cover" your flat layout surfaces?
Posted by mobilman44 on Friday, January 16, 2009 7:31 PM

Hi!

I'm taking down an existing layout built in 1993 and will replace it with a new - and improved one.  I'm 64 and trying real hard not to be set in my ways - even converting to DCC for the new layout.

On the former layout, which was a plywood base, I covered the flat areas with 1/8 inch sheet cork.  This worked very well for yard and terminal trackage, as well as a base for structures and groundcover. 

On the new layout, I am fairly certain I'll use the 1/8 cork for "non-mainline" trackbed.  But, I'm wondering if there is something better to use for the other areas.  Soooo, I'm wondering what you all have done on your layout, and what you think about it.

Thank you,

Mobilman44

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Friday, January 16, 2009 7:58 PM

I use cork or homasote for roadbed, not as a scenery base.

The flat areas, I cover with foam or screenwire with newspaper holding it up, then plaster-and-paper towels.

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Friday, January 16, 2009 9:36 PM

I use 1" pink foam insulating panels, covered with about 1/4" of sculptamold for texture and to erase that unnatural "completely flat" look.  You can build your whole layout on top of these if you like -- the tongue and groove construction makes them easy to link, and you only need supports about every 2' or so on your benchwork.

If that's too thick for you, you can use artist's "foam core", which is available at art and office supply stores.

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Posted by mobilman44 on Friday, January 16, 2009 10:16 PM

I will still use a plywood base, with major grades done "ala cookie cutter".  If you use plywood, what do you put on top of it?

Mobilman44

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:35 AM

If it's an area that you need to be flat, such as for a town or industry, simply add the buildings and scenic material as appropriate, painting those areas that require it.  For elevated areas, I simply glued a few blocks of scrap wood to the plywood, then stapled aluminum window screen in place and covered it with patching plaster.  Most of my layout is open grid - I use the screen/plaster where there are no buildings or track, and, generally, place suitably-sized pieces of plywood where I want to have buildings.

Here, the track and larger structures are on plywood, while the scenery to either side is screen/plaster:

And here, the track and some of the buildings are on plywood, while the rest are sitting atop the plaster - I usually apply it thick enough that it can be carved to allow the buildings to sit level:


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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:11 AM

I used Woodland Scenics risers and foam roadbed.  If I was doing it over I would use something harder.

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Posted by toot toot on Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:11 PM

I use double thickness corrugated cardboard from appliance boxes for flatish areas which do not have to support a great deal of weight.  One side has a glossy paper finish which is somewhat water resistant, when used glossy side "up" there is little to no significant warpage.  I hot glue the edges, and use a skim of sculptamold or substitute so its not too flat.  I will sometimes paint the cardboard if its in a high traffic area.  I use woodland scenics products for final finish.  It is cheap... like free, lightweight, easy to cut to fit, and if you need to make changes thats easy too.  i have some photos posted at Railfan.net model railroading under scratchbuilding a textile mill complex.

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:35 AM

mobilman44

I will still use a plywood base, with major grades done "ala cookie cutter".  If you use plywood, what do you put on top of it?

Mobilman44

God's gift to model railroaders:  Sculptamold.  Light, strong, about an hour working time, plus it's easily shaped with a putty knife or artists spatula when wet, and easy to carve or sand when dry.  It's only drawback is that if you slop it on thickly, it can take a while (several days) to dry.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:17 AM

On my under-construction layout, which is set in a mountainous region, about the only area which will even approach flat will be in the vicinity of my main station, and most of the flat land will have track or railroad structures on it.

I'm planning to use foam panels as scenery base, installed at whatever angle to horizontal is appropriate for the specific scene.  All will be supported directly from the benchwork, and just blended into the roadbed with the final surface treatment.  Exactly how scenery will be finished is still subject to discussion and experimentation.  Large parts of my mountains will have to be removable to allow access to hidden trackage - (scale) miles of hidden trackage.

I use fan-fold underlayment instead of cork, since cork has a limited lifespan in the Dessicated Desert and this is my 'last in this lifetime' layout.

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Posted by mobilman44 on Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:44 PM

Chuck,

  I am very much aware of the "last layout in this lifetime" situation, and have decided to have as open a mind to new fangled trends and ideas as I can.  I confess I've had / have predudices against certain materials and processes and have overcome a few - with going to DCC the biggest.

Mobilman44 - modeling the ATSF (and a minor in the IC) during a very long transition period.

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Posted by grizlump9 on Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:58 PM

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, January 26, 2009 8:21 AM

mobilman44

I will still use a plywood base, with major grades done "ala cookie cutter".  If you use plywood, what do you put on top of it?

Mobilman44

If you're using a flat plywood base, why not use Woodland Scenics risers and inclines instead of going thru all the hassle of "cookie cutting" the plywood?? It's nice not have to cut up the plywood, plus elevating all the track a little makes it much easier to add scenery below the tracks like ponds, streams etc.

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Posted by ham99 on Monday, January 26, 2009 9:42 AM

I use a combination of foam and Sculptamold to cover the plywood.  In the new around-the-room layout I am building right now, my yard is build right over cork on plywood.  But several other sections are built on foam over plywood so I can cut down into the foam for rivers and low areas.  Just having ground rising and falling even 1/2" makes a huge improvement.  My layout ranges in elevation from -6" to +8" from track level.  Track is level except for a 4% grade mine and logging branch with a Shay doing the work.

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