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new turnout built, ready for installation (sort of) plus layout update pics

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new turnout built, ready for installation (sort of) plus layout update pics
Posted by DeadheadGreg on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:24 PM

So here is my 2nd handlaid turnout that I've built.  This is made from stuff I got from Andy's Proto87 Store.  Its a #7 RH Central Valley tie-strip glued to 3/16" basswood.  I think I used Walthers Goo, but I don't remember.  I REALLY like basswood now, and I'm going to build every one of my turnouts on it from now on.  Screw homabed's turnout pads...  I can get enough for 4 or 5 turnouts for the price of one homabed turnout pad.  Basswood is PERFECT.  It's light, sturdy, yet soft enough for spike-insertion.  No wonder people use basswood for their ties, haha.

Anyway, this is code 70 rail with a Details West #7 frog.  The points were made using Fast Track's pointform tool.  I used Micro Engineering's Micro Spikes on the inside of the rail and their Small Spikes on the outside, to help eliminate any possible flange/spikehead contact. 

I had tried using the Proto87 Ultimate Throwbar first, but I couldn't get the holes drilled in the base of the rail with my (cheap) pin-vise that I just got from ebay.  Lesson learned with that thing...  it won't even hold the smallest of the #61-80 drill bits it came with.  I tried just using one set of the throwbars, the ones that don't need holes drilled, but that wasn't working out. 

My solution is bound to be controversial with all of you here...  haha.  My throwbar is actually a Micro Engineering weathered tie, and the points are spiked to it, and then soaked with CA and a little Goo for good measure.  My Caboose Industries ground throw is gooed in place as well.  I was worried that this method of throwbar construction wouldn't work out, but after numerous test-throws and being left thrown both ways for a while, I haven't had ANY problems.  (warning:  don't just go and soak the area where you spike the point to the throwbar....  capilary action will pull the glue down, and your throwbar will get glued to the roadbed, haha)

Thats about it...  I soldered jumpers between the points and stock rails.  Before I spiked the points down, I'd soldered the wire to the bottom of the points and left it extended enough so it could be threaded underneath the stock rail, to be cut to whatever length I needed.  The jumper between the diverging stock rail and straight point came out very well, I thought...  you can see how it looks just like a spikehead. 

Anyway...  THAT is about it, haha.  I used 3-point gauges and my NMRA guage.  I definitely learned a lot more from this turnout, and the next one I make will be even better.  Probably the most annoying thing was that the web of the rail kept splitting at the end of the points.  It definitely takes practice with the pointform tool, but it makes it a lot easier.  Ive definitely gotten a lot better, too, at filing away the stock rail.  I can get that done in like, 5 minutes.

alright, thats it.  now for the pictures.  yay! 

frog closeup:

closeup of the spikehead jumper wire:

throwbar closeups:

overall:

 

 

now heres my layout update pics.  Nothing extraordinary, but I just wanted to show off my successful wiring adventure, haha.

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Posted by Loco on Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:11 AM
Very cool DHG.  Been looking at using the Fast Tracks jigs for my layout.  Still thinking about it.  Your room as the same ceiling as mine - it slopes in.
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Posted by loathar on Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:05 AM
Looking pretty good. Thumbs Up [tup]Any reason you didn't go with the Proto87 throw bars? You really can beat them for the price.
I've been looking at some 1:1 turnouts in my area. They don't use continuous rail for their switch points. They're a separate piece held in place with rail bolt bars. I don't know if this is typical of all turnouts or not. It makes sense for them to use shorter pieces so they can be more easily machined and then trucked to their location.
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Posted by DeadheadGreg on Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:25 PM

Loathar, the main reason I didn't use Andy's throwbar is A) my points are continuous.  his stuff is meant for hinged points, typically.  and B) I couldn't get the hole drilled in the base of the rail with my pin vise to use the 2nd throwbar.  and C) the throwbar itself isn't as high as a regular tie, so it was hard to get it in position to glue the throwbar parts to the rail.  Besides that, there isn't any downward pressure to hold the points in place like there is with spiking it.  I would be just relying on the glue.

I'm gonna get a better pin vise so that I can actually get a hole drilled in the base of the rail so that I CAN use his throwbars, because they look awesome. 

PHISH REUNION MARCH 6, 7, 8 2009 HAMPTON COLISEUM IN HAMPTON, VA AND I HAVE TICKETS!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!! [quote user="jkroft"]As long as my ballast is DCC compatible I'm happy![/quote] Tryin' to make a woman that you move.... and I'm sharing in the Weekapaug Groove Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world....
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Posted by loathar on Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:34 PM
Thanks. You mentioned a couple of points I hadn't thought of while considering his throw bars.
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Posted by DeadheadGreg on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:36 PM
hey, i have a question now, actually.  I tried installing one of the joint bars on the opposite side of the turnout that won't be viewed, and thought of something:  Should I paint the track first, then install the joint bars, or install the joint bars first and THEN paint the track? 
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