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gluing rails to Central Valley tie-strips with Goo?

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gluing rails to Central Valley tie-strips with Goo?
Posted by DeadheadGreg on Tuesday, September 2, 2008 10:35 PM
Hey, quick question......  just wondering if its okay to use Walthers Goo to glue rail to the Central Valley tie-strips
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Posted by johncolley on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 9:27 AM
Greg, I would think you could, or even Gorilla Glue, but check out what is the drying time compared to their recommendation to use barge cement? When I use a new (to me) assembly technique, I first do it strictly according to the manufacturer's recommendations several times until I have it down cold, before I ever try to change any part of it. I really like CV turnout/track products and I love the big turnout numbers for realism. I will be trying out their new #12 code 83 turnouts this winter for mainline crossovers, sidings, and yard throats. Enjoy! John Colley, Port Townsend, WA
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Posted by alco_fan on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 9:42 AM

I thought you were using FastTracks. Or BK Enterprises. Or something.

Why not use the Barge Cement CV recommends? Goo was used for laying track because you could heat it with a soldering iron and make it flexible again. Not sure that would be a good idea with plastic ties.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 3:46 PM

Given the way Gorilla glue foams/expands as it dries I wouldn't use it. 

Years ago I used Walther's Goo with wood ties - worked well.  I think it should work with plastic.  The trick is to use a small amount so it doesn't ooze out too much.

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Posted by loathar on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 7:51 PM
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Posted by DeadheadGreg on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 11:08 PM
 alco_fan wrote:

I thought you were using FastTracks. Or BK Enterprises. Or something.

Why not use the Barge Cement CV recommends? Goo was used for laying track because you could heat it with a soldering iron and make it flexible again. Not sure that would be a good idea with plastic ties.

Lol.  I am!   haha...  i've kinda got a hodge-podge of methods going...  lol.  The first turnout I built was with a BK Enterprises point/frog assembly.  I'll probably build a few more to use as industrial spurs.  I also bought a bunch of stuff from Andy's Proto87 Stores.  I got 2 of his F&E #7 code 55 kits (which come with CNC points and his Ultimate Throwbar) and then 3 #7 tie-strips along with 3 of the detailed Details West planed-rail Code 70 #7 frogs, as well as an extra package of his Ultimate Throwbars to use with these. 

I also bought the #7 pointform tool from Fast Tracks.  Andy's Code 70 F&E kits only still come with the cast CV points, which I hate (even though all of his Ultimate turnouts come with the CNC points, and they're only a few dollars more than the F&E (F&E sell for $18 with the custom frog)... except that he sells the CNC points for $10, which is kind of bogus, considering that he also sells the wooden ties for a complete turnout for like $7, the Throwbar for $5, and then the tie-plates go for $10 and the frogs are $8 which doesn't make any sense, cuz if you were to buy the parts to make an Ultimate Turnout, it would run you over $35 when he only charges $21 for a #7 with the custom frog.  if I were to buy the parts to get an F&E with the CNC points, it would cost me $4 for the tie-strip, $8 for the frog, $10 for the points, $5 for the Ultimate Throwbars, $2 for the basic details, about $4 for all the rail which is way more than an Ultimate turnout costs.  bahhhhh).  

So anyway....  i bought the Pointform tool to make points for my #7 Code 70 turnouts.  I also got the rail from Fast Tracks because Andy charges like, almost double what Fast Tracks does. 

 

Andy's head is in the right place....  but I really just have no idea where the hell he gets his pricing method from.  It doesn't make ANY sense at all. 

 

Oh yeah, I also bought a few of the old Precision Scale Products turnout kits, which come with a frog, points, and guard rails.  Thats what the NEB&W uses, so I figured I'd give them a try. 

 

I have a bunch of the #4 BK Enterprises point/frog assemblies that I'm not going to ever use if anyone would want them, diiiiirt freaking cheap. 

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Posted by wedudler on Thursday, September 4, 2008 3:00 AM

 DeadheadGreg wrote:
Hey, quick question......  just wondering if its okay to use Walthers Goo to glue rail to the Central Valley tie-strips

I've glued my CV tie strips at Diamond Valley with white glue you use for wood.

I've changed the CV turnouts with PROTO:87 frogs and now I'm changing to  PROTO:87 throw bars. This pic shows a turnout, scratchbuild and soldered to PC board ties with PROTO:87 throw bar:

 

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Thursday, September 4, 2008 6:47 PM

Yes, you can use Goo.

I use it to glue the guard rails on Micro-Engineering flex bridge track. It will come up again if you are CAREFUL.

Use what you are comfortable with that will do the job at hand.

Elmer.

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(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.

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