Gerome wrote:Knight of Ni: We want.. A SHRUBBERY! (all over the layout)However, I live far from an hobby shop for the real scenic cement, and I have my doubts that white glue, even full strength will hold up even the slightest bit of vertical trunk in small shrubs until they dry upright. (I plan to start with shrubbery on the steep sides of my long embankment, so their base spot is steep.)And I want something removable, so I am experimenting tonight with a dab of clear silicone adhesive. Anyone have any thoughts experience with something similar?
I've used vinyl floor adhesive on large vertical surfaces for shrubbery. Here's a couple of pictures of it. I used the screen to hold it in place. I leaned a piece of particle board against it until it dried.
For small areas I've used a hot glue gun.
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Like perry1060 said, silicone caulk smells pretty bad. I would use latex caulk. Virtually no smell, and, unlike silicone caulk, it can be painted over with any kind of paint. I know you said you don't live near a hobby store, but Ailene's Tacky Glue (I think I spelled that right) might work for you. It's a very thick tacky glue and I think it should hold something on a vertical surface. You can get it at a craft store like Michael's too. The only disadvantage I've found with it is that it sticks onto everything. I've used it to attach foliage to tree armatures and before long I've got foliage stuck all over my fingers and the table.
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canazar wrote:Ah, classis movie. I think that flick had more good quotes than any other... "Thrice is the magic number for the Holly Hand gernade..."
Ah, classis movie. I think that flick had more good quotes than any other... "Thrice is the magic number for the Holly Hand gernade..."
Another bad shrubbery pun or just a typo? A genuine classic indeed!
But there is a additional consideration ... silicone is not easily paintable. Be very careful of where you put it. Not only is it shiny but you can't easily hide it. Keep it as small as Sir Robin's bravery. OTOH Over clear a plastic strip and then drybrushed white it does make a decent waterfall.
Oh yeah, a drop of CA will hold the trunk upright while the white glue dries.
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Actually, white glue works very well. I have done over forty feet of scenery with a high percentage of vertical. The trick is to prop up the scenery piece with a stick (buy a bunch of those wooden skewers) or similar object (glue bottle, ruler, paint brush, etc.) until the glue dries. If your like me you have several projects going on at once so while the glue dries overnight, you can ballast, work on the horizontal portion, lay track, or whatever.
Having tried several methods, full strength white glue is the best. And it dries clear.
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I've use this silicone as glue and then vacate the room until it sets up --- it really stinks. Here on the steep side of the cliffs, I used clear silicone to hold these molded rocks made of water putty in place. It's an instant stick solution and not as messy as a five minute epoxy...
For green shrubbery on a vertical cabin wall too...
I've also used a dab of silicone on the bottom of a raft --- to stick it to a vertical waterfall just long enough for a camera shot. It works well.
Another possibiity for white glue could you pin the the pushes with sewing pins until the glue dried?
I suppose the silicon could work but like Loather mentioned, just got to watch out for the shiney side.
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Silicone is shiny and isn't EZ to remove. I've had good luck with full strength matte adhesive like Mod Podge. You can even glue Lupins to your layout with it.