gandydancer19 wrote: Well Mike, it looks good to me.For some reason, I can't see the reversing loop that people keep talking about (somewhere on the right?).Anyway, since I have been following your efforts from the beginning, I think that you have it nailed on this one.If I had to make one change, I would move the town and the industry / passing tracks down toward the front a few inches. I don't think that would affect the track plan as you have it now. The reason is I think the town may be a little crowded against the rear track on the grade to the logging camps. (I know your buildings are going to back up right against the grade / hill, but hills do take a little room.) When you go to lay it out for real on the bench work, I would build the grade in the back first. That way you can actually get the spacing you need between it and the town. You will also be able to see if you can get the elevation that you expect for the vertical clearance for the track to the staging area.But like I said, I think this one is good to go.
Well Mike, it looks good to me.
For some reason, I can't see the reversing loop that people keep talking about (somewhere on the right?).
Anyway, since I have been following your efforts from the beginning, I think that you have it nailed on this one.
If I had to make one change, I would move the town and the industry / passing tracks down toward the front a few inches. I don't think that would affect the track plan as you have it now. The reason is I think the town may be a little crowded against the rear track on the grade to the logging camps. (I know your buildings are going to back up right against the grade / hill, but hills do take a little room.) When you go to lay it out for real on the bench work, I would build the grade in the back first. That way you can actually get the spacing you need between it and the town. You will also be able to see if you can get the elevation that you expect for the vertical clearance for the track to the staging area.
But like I said, I think this one is good to go.
Elmer, Once I had the pic posted I realized the same thing.. It does look like there is plenty of room to move town track down a few inches as you has stated. I figure I'll need 3-4 inches for the logging track upgrade. Then the buildings along the back in front of those tracks should take up about 4-6 inches or so. I may put a little backdrop behind buildings and in front of tracks on grade. That way I could use flats instead of full sized buildings, saving a few inches. I couldn't figure out where the rev. loop is either. I'll post a plan for the staging under the camp in the near future. Its not gonna be anything fancy or huge by any means. But the staging will probably be a rev. loop.
Anyway, thanks again Elmer for your patience and help on my plan. And thank you to all you others that have taken time to help me out on this.
Mike
- Harry
Elmer.
The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.
(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.
selector wrote: If I have missed where it is covered by anyone, forgive me...but I would add at least two more parallel tracks, even if they had to be stubs, at the extreme left behind the divider. You could make it a through yard for true staging if you wished, but you will probably eventually want more storage out of site, not really staged trains, and a couple of longish stubs coming off the long curve just as it gets behind the lower end of the divider would be a good idea...I think.-Crandell
If I have missed where it is covered by anyone, forgive me...but I would add at least two more parallel tracks, even if they had to be stubs, at the extreme left behind the divider. You could make it a through yard for true staging if you wished, but you will probably eventually want more storage out of site, not really staged trains, and a couple of longish stubs coming off the long curve just as it gets behind the lower end of the divider would be a good idea...I think.
-Crandell
I wrote of the staging in thread above.... But what you write of is kind of what I'll have... under the logging camp and logging site. The track that is behind the town will be going upgrade at roughly 3.5%. By the time it gets to where the tunnel is for the track going to staging it should be at a height of atleast 6" above track below. There won't be any staging above ground.
Sorry if I didn't make clear the staging plan.... Once the train goes into tunnel towards staging, it will follow a tear shape back to itself before exiting tunnel back into town. Then there will probably 2 doeble ended holding tracks off of tear. I just hadn't shown the hidden staging below because I'm more interested in the upper, main portion of layout right now.
The grid is 12" squares. The wall along the 20' long side is up against layout. Otherwise I can walk around the entire area. There is a 3' clearence on left side before you hit the steps up. On the right side there is about 2.5' until you hit the garage door. But I can open that. Then about 3' in front to parked car. But all clear when car is out of garage.
There will only be inbound/outbound traffic for the industries in town, the mill and the camp. I may only have train lengths of 4-6 cars leaving or arriving at one time. There will be a logging engine commissioned from lumber co. An in town swithcher (0-6-0) to move freight in town and to staging. Then there will be and engine coming from outside world to drop of freight for town. A few cars. And then I'll have a small commuter train to get from town to "outside". I only plan on running the logging train up the mountain to camp.
I hope this answers your questions. Please feel free to ask/ advise some more. Your input is greatly appreciated.
MIke
MPRR wrote: Ok fellas.. I tried to label what I could. The Town plan is similar to the "Onion Valley Mining & Lumber Co." MR June '06 P.41 The area of Manzanar... The pics in the article of the town look similar to what I envisioned. More wooded of course. My town will be in upper New Hampshire area. 1920'sMike
Ok fellas.. I tried to label what I could. The Town plan is similar to the "Onion Valley Mining & Lumber Co." MR June '06 P.41 The area of Manzanar... The pics in the article of the town look similar to what I envisioned. More wooded of course. My town will be in upper New Hampshire area. 1920's
I may get slapped for daring to suggest this, but seriously, I would add a return loop somewhere on the left side.
It could be added by spuring off at the building labeled "Depot Freight" and run into the backdrop and connected back with the mainline thru the line leading to the hidden staging area.
The reason is if you ever need to have the layout set up just for display for a club meet or just have family or friends over, or just palin dont feel like 'operating' (we've all had days like that)you can always just enjoy running a train on the continous loop. Its a nice option to have, and it gives you TWO directions to stage trains from.
Have fun with your trains
You have reversing loops at each end of the dogbone, but I don't see the left hand reverse loop connecting back to the main line. Unless my eyes are going bad, you have a point to loop layout where you could have a loop to loop in the same space. Me, I like the continuous run you get with loop to loop.
You put in a turntable. As long as you go to that much effort, why not have more stall tracks, allowing more locomotives to be stored? Consider making your stall tracks straight, running out radially from the center of the turntable pit. I don't believe I ever saw stall tracks with a curve in them.
Could you squeeze in a larger yard somewhere? Great operating fun to sort cars into trains from the yard tracks. Gives your freight trains a logical starting and stopping place.
Good luck.
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