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Revisiting a childhood layout plan

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Posted by cregil on Friday, May 30, 2008 4:23 PM
 tomikawaTT wrote:

Very nice starter layout!  And the changes you've made tie right in with your future plans for extensions.

The only thing I would do is arrange for a runaround somewhere.  The spur off the yard loop at bottom dead center is effectively inaccessible without it.  (Of course, there will be a runaround on the timesaver module.)

Looks like it would be fun to operate.

Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)

Thanks, Chuck.

When I built the original, I stalled out on scenery, but from the series, that track was apparently for access to a coal tipple and I ran it as such, using an 0-8-0 as the yard engine.  It was also the place where I got the road engine out of the way while the incoming cars were shoved into the yard and the outgoing cars attached before running the yard engine back out of the way into the yard.

A run around is needed but there is so little room, and I like the limitation.  Already, these are #3.8 frogs all around except for the long-ish passenger track at right.  To use #6 all around made it a 4-by-8 which I am unwilling to do for this, the only non-shelf piece I intend to have. 

That one #6 has to do with the original article which noted that the incoming passenger train from another railroad backed into that track. For that reason, I'll be using a connection to some as yet unimagined to head in from the extension I added to the lower right (I will eventually work something out for a better cross-over using paired #6 turnouts there and try to increase that 10.5" curve a bit which lies between the crossover and passenger track.  The passenger train can then continue heading against the regular flow and disappear down the helix and reappear in Lancaster Yard.  This will be a time table and train order operation-- no signals-- Casey Jones type stuff.

In a picture of the February 1974 installment, the passenger train is seen running against the flow, just as I intend, but with the use of a helix to make it go away-- off stage, I have something I think is better.

I neglected to mention that I intend to abandon the coal tipple (the MR feature's plan was a transition era layout) for a leading, industrial track to allow for that complication which requires a dance between the road and yard engines.  Adding the turntable changes that upper left track from an industry to the service track where the coaling will take place, and suggests the early steam era which I will be modeling. 

Thanks again Chuck for the input.

Crews 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, May 30, 2008 12:13 PM

Very nice starter layout!  And the changes you've made tie right in with your future plans for extensions.

The only thing I would do is arrange for a runaround somewhere.  The spur off the yard loop at bottom dead center is effectively inaccessible without it.  (Of course, there will be a runaround on the timesaver module.)

Looks like it would be fun to operate.

Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)

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Revisiting a childhood layout plan
Posted by cregil on Friday, May 30, 2008 11:46 AM
Some thoughts in hopes of inspiring others...

In 1974, MR ran a series on a small n-scale layout called the Rochester Regional RR.  I was thirteen and that layout stirred my imagination.  It still does, and I miss it.

Now, mostly in sentimentality, but finding the old and simple trailing-point switching tasks satisfying, I am considering building it again.  Using ¼" plywood as roadbed (instead of ½"), I was able to lower the ruling grade to 1.9%.  Since this is a single track layout, so to accomplish the switching tasks the inside track must be used for the climb.  The outer track is just under 1.8%.  On my original layout, even short trains would have to be coaxed up the original grade of 2.4%

By lengthening the layout by 12" and widening it by 6", I was able to use transition curves and keep the minimum radius above 10.5".  In fact, all but one curve are above 11".  This also helped in the grade issue.

The original plan had a short industry track branching off on the right edge.  This I changed to allow for connections to additional modules (one being built now)-two tiny yard puzzle layouts, a Time Saver and an Inglenook.  

Perhaps for fancy, but perhaps something I may one day be able to do, I added a 16 5/8" radius helix dead center of the layout (not shown) at a 1.8% grade.  It is accessed by the short track in the tunnel just before the track emerges out into the lower level yard.  The helix will descend to place a track at an appropriate height for seated work.  That extension is for my "dream layout" modeling the early days of the T&P in Fort Worth.

Part of my dream is to have a layout which I can enjoy by myself, as well as allow for

Since the Rochester Regional is a great first layout with easy switching tasks plus the ability to run continuously and the switching puzzles I will attach to it are excellent for baiting someone, who at first will only see a "toy train," into the adult concept of the hobby.  I rather like the idea of going back to my own beginning before I move on to the truly complex.  By having the earliest stage of my model railroading as part of dream layout, I may one day have an excellent recruiting/training piece that not only is appropriate for the experienced, but allows for a novice to be drawn in.

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