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Posted by loathar on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:52 PM
Personally, (and this is just me) I would figure out a way to add 1 more track along the back wall and connect the 2 sides into a loop in case you ever want to just let a train run while your doing switching. You could even hide it and use it for staging when not in use.My 2 cents [2c]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:31 PM

Looks like a well thought out track plan.  Make sure to post some pics as you progress!

Bill

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Monday, May 19, 2008 5:14 PM

OK. Look at the flow of the passenger train when it comes in from staging. It looks like it has to make quite a few switching moves before it gets to the station. Also, the head end is locked in between the engine (that is headed into the dead end siding) and the coaches.

I would move the station all the way to the left. Swap out a couple of industries on the left side with it. Then I would ad a cross-over between the top town industry track and the top track of the double ended siding. Now a passenger train come into town, it heads for the mill, but then once clear of the switches, backs up right into the station. One move. And because you have the cross-over, there can be a car or two at the industries. 

(I need to think about how the train would dpart.Sign - Oops [#oops]

EDIT:  I would perfer to have the station situated so that it is on a double ended siding or other double ended track.  At the same time, it shouldn't be too close to the industries.  I'm not sure how to do that on your plan.  The flow for passengers should be that they be able to get off the train as soon as it comes in, and for departing passengers, they get on and the train leaves.  Some switching may be expected, and if can be done after the passengers get off and before thay get on, the better.

Now lets talk about the passenger train. What you have here is a logging industry that has a town at the tail end of a branch line. A first class passenger train would not normally visit such an isolated town. Not enough passenger traffic to justify it. The norm in a situation like this would be a doodle bug or mixed train. The largest passenger consist would be either a doodle bug with a coach trailer, or a combine and coach tacked on to a freight. (Mixed train). Now, in all cases, if the station was moved, the scheme works for the leased amount of moves for incoming trains. The normal train would just have a combine tacked on to the end of most, if not all, freight trains.

Now, how are you going to turn the engines? How about putting a turntable where the engine house is, then turn the engine house 90 degrees from the way it is now, and situate it toward the mill between the tracks? If you wanted, you could also just use a one stall engine house, and one outdoor track. Then the outdoor track could also connect to the loop around the mill on the left. I think I would look at it close. It may not work, but if it does, you would have the engine facilities closer to the mill for the logging locos, but still be able to turn the mainline locos easily from town.

Elmer.

The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.

(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.

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Posted by MPRR on Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:41 PM
 gandydancer19 wrote:

Sounds good to me, but the drawing is kind of small to see everything in town.  You should have a passenger station.

WHAT???  You mean your passengers can't make a connection to Baltimore through other Railroads beyound the mountains?  My East Coast layout has a connection to the West.  Just not on my layout.Big Smile [:D]

The passenger station in the drawing is up above the enginge house. Along the right lead up in town. Other industries may be located on other end of same lead. The lumber yard and furniture store is located on lower siding below main line through town. Just in front of tunnel entrance to hidden staging below. So yea, Passenger ops should terminate in staging. I get it. Wink [;)] Thanks for all your help.. I should be ordering my code 83 flex track and some turnouts next week.

Mike

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Posted by MPRR on Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:36 PM
 West Coast S wrote:

I assume these trains to the mill would consist of unfinished lumber and once milled, routed to local industries and off road connections?  Good choice to have your passenger runs conclude in stagging. I envision a distinct switching district in which mill bound trains terminate their runs, outbound, finished products are made up and dispatched locally or to stagging. I would center my passenger operations in this area with the train being serviced and turned.

Dave  

What area would you center the passenger ops? Down by the mill? There would be room there. Your assumptions are correct about the lumber ops.

Mike

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Posted by West Coast S on Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:58 PM

I assume these trains to the mill would consist of unfinished lumber and once milled, routed to local industries and off road connections?  Good choice to have your passenger runs conclude in stagging. I envision a distinct switching district in which mill bound trains terminate their runs, outbound, finished products are made up and dispatched locally or to stagging. I would center my passenger operations in this area with the train being serviced and turned.

Dave  

SP the way it was in S scale
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Posted by gandydancer19 on Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:15 PM

Sounds good to me, but the drawing is kind of small to see everything in town.  You should have a passenger station.

WHAT???  You mean your passengers can't make a connection to Baltimore through other Railroads beyound the mountains?  My East Coast layout has a connection to the West.  Just not on my layout.Big Smile [:D]

Elmer.

The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.

(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.

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updated track plan
Posted by MPRR on Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:37 PM

Train from up mountain would come down to mill. From the mill, loaded lumber will go to lumber yard in town for wholesale, or various other lumber based industries in town, or go straight to holding bound for staging. Engine from house could set out to town to switch industries and move cars to holding track to be moved to staging. Not sure if thats where I should put station. Passenger would just travel to staging since the logging line is still active. Once abandoned then would convert to railfan line. Tell me what you think.

Mike

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