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need a really good glue for grass mat
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:53 PM
I tried the stuff at the hobby store and it was a joke.  Is there anything I can use to make the mat stick the way it should....forever.  I'm trying to put it on plywood. 
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Posted by Mark R. on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:49 PM

Good old white glue or yellow carpenters glue has always worked well for me. Any areas that don't want to stay down until the glue sets are held down with numerous straight pins until the glue sets.

Mark. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:02 PM
I'm looking for something like a pint of super glue without the brain-cell-killing smell.  Someone mentioned on another forum that they used some type of 3M tac spray.
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Posted by Rotorranch on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:20 PM

 Freight Yard Hobo wrote:
I'm looking for something like a pint of super glue without the brain-cell-killing smell.  Someone mentioned on another forum that they used some type of 3M tac spray.

The 3M spray adhesive I use will definitely do the number on the brain cells. Best to use it outside.

Rotor

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Posted by secondhandmodeler on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:24 PM

I'm the one who suggested the 3M glue on the other forum.  It really doesn't smell that bad.  It's not nearly as bad as Testors model glue.  Give it a try, I use the same thing to install the felt for my pool table.  It is the best option as far as I'm concerned.

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Posted by shayfan84325 on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:11 AM

I suggest using 3m 777 spray adhesive or Dap contact cement (you brush it on).  Both contain nasty organic solvents, so you'll need a respirator with organic vapor cartridges to be safe.  A respirator isn't really that expensive and it's good to have one because it allows you to use any kind of model stuff you want - without getting hurt.

The way I would use these is to paint it on the plywood only.  Then let it dry completely.  Put the mat in place and use a warm iron to heat the mat and re-activate the glue.  Just iron it down like you're pressing a shirt.

Paint some lines on it and your layout will look just like a football field.

Phil,
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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:56 AM
Why are you using a grass mat when creating realistic scenery is easy and looks so much mroe convincing?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:21 PM

(1) I'm a complete Newbie

(2) When it comes to doing something like this I have absolutely no imagination whatsoever.

(3) I don't know of any other options that take less time and uses less brain cells.

This train set is for my step son's 8th birthday.  He is a low-spectrum autistic so accuracy is of little importance.  The MTH train set I bought has Proto-Sound 2.0 which I thought sounded fantastic and once my step son (who LOVES trains) sees and hears this train set he will have a smile from ear to ear all day.  I need to set this layout up as quick and painless as possible and still look half-way decent.   

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Posted by trainnut1250 on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:52 PM
 Mark R. wrote:

Good old white glue or yellow carpenters glue has always worked well for me. Any areas that don't want to stay down until the glue sets are held down with numerous straight pins until the glue sets.

If the mat has paper backing, white glue will cause it to wrinkle no matter how many pins are used.  I know this from having it happen to me on a layout 30 + years ago.  I would use some sort of solvent based glue with ventilation. 

 BTW: there are some good looking grass matts out there....Perfect for this application...Check the european companies.

 Guy

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:12 PM
Are there any grass mats that the grass doesn't come off or scrape off so easily?
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Posted by Lillen on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:11 PM

 Freight Yard Hobo wrote:
Are there any grass mats that the grass doesn't come off or scrape off so easily?

 

I have a grass mat from Woodland scenics that works great I use it for miniature war games and I've been using it for two years without a sign of wear. I would use latex caulk to put it down put I use that for pretty much anything :)

 

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