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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:41 PM

 

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Posted by saronaterry on Tuesday, March 4, 2008 3:56 PM
 ramoutandabout wrote:

Thanks  guyes.  Does anyone have more pics?

 

 

thanks again

Ray

Yup.

This shot is of a duckunder across the doorway to the mechanical room. It's 6" wide:

 

This one's alittle ways north where the main becomes double track. About 8" wide:

 

Good luck.

Terry

 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Tuesday, March 4, 2008 2:49 PM

This thread got me thinking, and looking hard at the scribbled sketches on envelopes that pass for plans for the as-yet-unbuilt parts of my empire.

After careful analysis I've come to the conclusion that there won't be a backdrop, as such, on most of my layout.  The space (100mm or more) between the track and the wall will be occupied by forced-perspective near-vertical scenery to well above my eye level.  "Sky color," a bluish white (very humid area!) will appear on the inside of the lighting valences I've planned.

I can get away with that because the prototypes for my railroads (three of four of them) operate at or near the bottoms of steep-sloped, heavily forested canyons  The odd prototype was relocated into the mountains since a piece of relatively level coastal area wouldn't have meshed with the rest of the scenery.  (Also, I wanted an excuse to operate bigger locos, which could only be justified by heavy grades.)

Every place where the tracks come closer to the walls than 100mm, the track is either in a tunnel or part of the underworld.  In most places I can allow 200mm for scenery beyond the farthest track.  If I do have a backdrop, all it will show will be a vista of more, more distant, mountains.  (To answer the unasked question, Fujisan will NOT be one of them.)

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Posted by ramoutandabout on Tuesday, March 4, 2008 1:13 PM

Thanks  guyes.  Does anyone have more pics?

 

 

thanks again

Ray

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Posted by wickman on Monday, March 3, 2008 8:09 PM

For the most part I tried to stay min. 4" to allow for scenery


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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, March 3, 2008 6:16 PM

Mine are 1" to 1 1/2" away.

 

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Posted by loathar on Monday, March 3, 2008 5:14 PM

Pretty close.

 

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Posted by saronaterry on Monday, March 3, 2008 5:09 PM

Ray, this spot is only about 10" wide, but you can see Crandell's point. It looks pretty good straight on , which is how it's usually viewed(disregard the crappy track work, that's been repaired!Smile [:)]

Itry to stay a few inches away from the backdrop,it's an around the wall layout,and I load it up with trees to try to hide that fact.Hope it helps!

Terry

 

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Posted by selector on Monday, March 3, 2008 3:53 PM

Ray, mine are well set away from my backdrop, but not simply because I wanted it that way.  I wanted other things about my layout to be just so, which necessarily meant the backrop would never be closer than about 4".

The problem I see with getting too close is that you will have unnatural shadows on the backrop from passing trains and other stuff if imaging your layout is ever going to be a consideration for you.  So, if you are kinda stuck and need to get right up to an NMRA track gauge minimum clearance between the backdrop surface and your rails, at least paint the bottom showing part of the backdrop to look like terrain, and not sky.  That way, shadows won't look terribly out of place.

But you shouldn't get closer than what the NMRA clearances say you should, particularly on curves where overhangs can quickly encroach.

In this image, notice that even though I am about 2" from the wall, I am really about 4" from the visible backdrop painted below the window sill, and that I have terrain rising above where the shadow of the passing train is likely to fall.

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How close?
Posted by ramoutandabout on Monday, March 3, 2008 3:40 PM

Hello guyes, I'm wondering how close your tracks are to your back drop?   I'd love some pics even and drawing.

 

thanks again

Ray

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