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ballasting tracks......... first time w/ cork

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Posted by Geared Steam on Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:14 PM

 DeadheadGreg wrote:
anybody have anything to say about the MLR ballast spreader?

A waste of money MHO. Doesnt work with a darn, especially with anything other than code 100.

 

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Posted by Medina1128 on Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:03 PM
Although it was mentioned about sanding the top of the cork to make sure it's flat and smooth, what wasn't mentioned was to sand off the sharp edge of the cork that's left after splitting the cork along the factory pre-cut edge. I round off that edge with the sander while I'm sanding the top.
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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, February 10, 2008 8:32 PM
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Posted by jktrains on Sunday, February 10, 2008 4:02 PM

Packer#1,

Please share with us some pics of your trackwork and ballasting.  I'm sure everyone would love to see how you've put such great advice to work on your layout.  It sounds like your an expert on the subject, so please share.

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Posted by BigRusty on Sunday, February 10, 2008 3:25 PM
I am about to lay the track on my Oak Brook Station Module. I plan to use latex caulk to attach the cork roadbed. After it has set, I will use a belt sander to make sure it is level and smooth and kill the sharp edges on the shoulders. I bought a spray can of RustOleum American Accents Stone color. I will then spray the entire road bed with that first. It looks a lot like ballast when dried, and it will hide any bare spots, if any. I will pre weather the ME CODE 83 flex track and glue it down with latex caulk. It will be weighted down with bricks for a few days before I apply the ballast. I don't like "synthetic" ballast so will be using the Arizona real crushed stone. In the past I have used John's ballast with great success, but I don't know where to obtain it nowadays.
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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, February 9, 2008 4:24 PM

Use Cody Grivno's article for their project layout. He shows a good technique.

 

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Posted by DeadheadGreg on Saturday, February 9, 2008 10:33 AM
anybody have anything to say about the MLR ballast spreader?
PHISH REUNION MARCH 6, 7, 8 2009 HAMPTON COLISEUM IN HAMPTON, VA AND I HAVE TICKETS!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!! [quote user="jkroft"]As long as my ballast is DCC compatible I'm happy![/quote] Tryin' to make a woman that you move.... and I'm sharing in the Weekapaug Groove Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world....
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Posted by loathar on Saturday, February 9, 2008 9:49 AM
 basementdweller wrote:

I love to ballast!

 

GREAT! Want to come over and do about 300' of it for me??Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by DeadheadGreg on Saturday, February 9, 2008 9:17 AM
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i think it worked well might have pics tomorrow er somethin so everyone can find my flaws lol

 

you better double-check to see if you wired it properly.  You don't want different colored ballast causing short circuits when you run a train over it.  And use heavy wire to make sure the current gets there. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

PHISH REUNION MARCH 6, 7, 8 2009 HAMPTON COLISEUM IN HAMPTON, VA AND I HAVE TICKETS!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!! [quote user="jkroft"]As long as my ballast is DCC compatible I'm happy![/quote] Tryin' to make a woman that you move.... and I'm sharing in the Weekapaug Groove Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world....
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Posted by basementdweller on Saturday, February 9, 2008 8:30 AM

I love to ballast!

1. Spread and shape the ballast, take time to get ballast off the top of ties.

2. soak ballast with straight rubbing alcohol from sparay bottle. (remove rolling stock, buildings etc from surrounding areas)

3. dilute elmers glue 50/50.

4. drip elmers glue mix, straight out of the emlers glue bottle, onto wet ballast, should soak right in. Get the ballast good and soaked with the glue. If glue beads up just spray with more alcohol. If ballast messes up wait until it dries before correcting it.

5. Wipe off rail head with alcohol soaked rag.

6. Once dry run a screwdriver around the inside of the rails to remove and ballast that has stuck to the rail and that will cause a derailment.

7. Turnouts - just take your time here, spread ballast and just make sure no ballast in in the guiderails, work the turnout plenty of times to make sure it moves freely. Spray with alcohol, and then use a small medicine dropper to put a drop of glue between each tie. Do not get glue near moving parts or it will stick the turnout in place. Take your time here and you will be fine.

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Posted by loathar on Friday, February 8, 2008 11:28 PM

it looks pretty good for a spur to me but holy sh- er um COW! that is a slow and tedious process! lol

Yes it is! Something that I do is make sure I sand the cork shoulder nice and smooth. I then paint straight white glue on the shoulders and apply a coat of ballast to that first. Let this dry and then do the rest of the ballast as mentioned above. Keeps it from washing off the sides when you apply the diluted scenic cement.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 8, 2008 10:52 PM

ok got some done today,

it looks pretty good for a spur to me but holy sh- er um COW! that is a slow and tedious process! lol

well what i did is dilute white glue 50/50 with water and some dish soap

then i spread the ballast between the ties how i wanted it ahen i sprayed it w/ rubbing alcohol and let it soak a min then dribbled the glue in between the ties

on the shoulders i took a paint brush and spread a generous layer on the cork and a little bit onto the styrofoam and sprinkled ballast on that 

and once that was dry i put the final layer on that and spread it w/ piece of cardboard then wet it w/ alcohol and dribbled glue on it until i knew it was all through the ballast and i had it

i think it worked well might have pics tomorrow er somethin so everyone can find my flaws lol

BUT how do you learn if thay dont? 

oh btw a small syringe works really good for this i found it had A LOT more control than an eye dropper

thanks for the info guys i dont know where i would be with out this forum!Bow [bow]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 8, 2008 12:43 PM
Dunce [D)]Laugh [(-D] oh lol not the first time 
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Posted by AltoonaRailroader on Friday, February 8, 2008 12:27 PM
I think someone is yanking your chain TXR Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 8, 2008 11:39 AM
 DeadheadGreg wrote:

make sure you ballast is DCC compatible first, or else your styrofoam won't work. 

 

 

what do you mean DCC compatible?  styrofoam wnt work? 

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Posted by AltoonaRailroader on Friday, February 8, 2008 9:14 AM

There are several techniques but Greg put it pretty straight for you. I use the diluted Elmer's white for securing the ballast once it's set in place. And use a Pipette to droplette your glue in, that ballast is really light and you'll end up washing it all over the place or have to put more on to cover up bare spots which will change your uniformity. Some others have also put the ballast down, then soaked it with alcohol to "wick it". Then when you put your glue on it'll soak down through the ballast and glue it all together, not just the top layer. One other bit of advice is to do small sections at a time. Most people I've asked do like a foot or two of track at a time. Oh, one more thing, after you're glue is try besure to vacum up the extra, very important.

 Good luck.

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Posted by DeadheadGreg on Thursday, February 7, 2008 10:58 PM

make sure you ballast is DCC compatible first, or else your styrofoam won't work. 

 

ballasting is easy.  When you get it spread how you want, what you want to do is dilute some elmers glue with water and a couple drops of dishwashing detergent.  The detergent acts as a wick to get the glue to seep all the way in.  Some people do this first with a detergent/water mixture known as "wet water".  Either way, you'll want to apply the glue with a pipette/eyedropper so that it doesn't wash away the ballast. 

I've thought about spraying Scenic Cement myself; does anyone know if this and/or simple hairspray would work?

PHISH REUNION MARCH 6, 7, 8 2009 HAMPTON COLISEUM IN HAMPTON, VA AND I HAVE TICKETS!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!! [quote user="jkroft"]As long as my ballast is DCC compatible I'm happy![/quote] Tryin' to make a woman that you move.... and I'm sharing in the Weekapaug Groove Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world....
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ballasting tracks......... first time w/ cork
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 7, 2008 10:40 PM

hi i just laid track and are wanting to begin ballast but im not sure on the process of how to go about doing it, i think i have a general idea. mainly what im asking is how do i glue it good im using woodland scenics coarse ballast

is there something i can make out of some regular glues like elmers white or something like that, or do i have to go ALL the way up town to the LHS and get some scenic cement or something  

plx helpSigh [sigh]

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