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Need an HO scale cigar store Indian

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Posted by scribbelt on Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:06 AM

Hello David, Rusty Stumps has what you need.

Thanks

 

http://www.rustystumps.com/proddetail.asp?prod=C2001

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Posted by woodman on Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:09 AM

I would have to think that 7 years after the OP made his comments that he most likely found his Cigar Store Indian, also there is the possibilty ( I certanly hope not ) that the OP is no longer with us, as his screen name was THE OLD MAN.

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Posted by joe323 on Monday, February 9, 2015 3:05 PM
Lillen wrote:

  I keep thinking of a Seinfeld episode when I read this thread.

 

I remember that episode Kramer wanted a Cigar Store Indian

 

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Posted by NYMR fan on Monday, February 9, 2015 8:12 AM

Alas, seven years later...

Fun & Games Cigar Store Indian

http://www.scalefigures.com/HO/ho2.htm

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Posted by HarryHotspur on Monday, February 25, 2008 6:34 AM
Shouldn't we call them Cigar Store Native Americans?  Wink [;)]

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Posted by cregil on Monday, February 25, 2008 2:06 AM

Funny you should post this thread-- I'm going to carve one to stand in the window of my n-scale early 20th C saloon that I am building.  Going to make a tiny pool table as well.  I have carved an HO scale figure from butternut-- figure I can do n-scale from the same.

I have every carving tool imaginable, but suspect I’ll do this with a #11 Exacto blade.  If you are interested, here is a tip:  Exacto blades can be sharpened, made better, and reused.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:05 PM

Well, the shop needs some interior detailing, but a certain bearded guy has announced he's quitting his "El Presidente" job, and moving to Moose Bay, where he'll be sell, among other things, El Presidente Cigars.

It's an old Plasticville building, with a home-made window decal.  There's a light on inside, but I've got to do more than just stick some store shelf pictures on the back wall.

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Posted by larak on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:04 PM

 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
I'm Cherokee and I don't find the Cigar Store Indian offensive in any way, nor do many of my people that I've asked about it. I treat it as a historic relic of a bygone era.

My wife (who helps build scenery) is a Lenape' medicine woman. She would not be offended either.

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Posted by leighant on Monday, February 11, 2008 10:44 PM

MisterBeasley wrote; "So, you think we should have a Cigar-Store Stand-Up Comedian?  Kinky."

Down here in Texas, we DID have a cigar-smoking standup comedian Kinky.  Kinky Friedman was an independent candidate for Governor 2 years ago.  Has written and recorded a number of politically incorrect songs guaranteed to offend all groups.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, February 11, 2008 6:59 PM

 Lillen wrote:
  I keep thinking of a Seinfeld episode when I read this thread.

Magnus

So, you think we should have a Cigar-Store Stand-Up Comedian?  Kinky.

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Posted by Lillen on Monday, February 11, 2008 4:10 PM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

We're fortunate to have a few descendents of the original inhabitants of this continent on board with this forum, so I'm going to digress a bit and ask them a question:

Are cigar store Indians offensive to anyone?  To me, they are an historical artifact which is interesting to model.  According to Wikipedia, they originated back in the Colonial era, when tobacco was introduced to the European market.  At that time, most people were pretty illiterate, so shops used pictures or statues like cigar store Indians to advertise their wares.  Since tobacco came from the New World, the cigar store Indian was a natural choice.

Some people equate the cigar store Indian with the Lawn Jockey, which was very common in the 1950's.  The Lawn Jockey, though, was much more of a racial characature, while the cigar store Indian became almost an art form.

 

I keep thinking of a Seinfeld episode when I read this thread.

 

Magnus

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Posted by HHPATH56 on Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:30 PM

Unfortunately, my (unheated) garage loft layout was bitterly cold when I took this picture. So, the lens must have been a bit clouded. This is the Built-&-Ready Woodland Scenics "Corner Emporium - BR5024, with the "Cigar Store Indian" in front of the tobacconist's shop, and the barber shop on the corner.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, February 7, 2008 9:30 AM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

Are cigar store Indians offensive to anyone?  To me, they are an historical artifact which is interesting to model.  According to Wikipedia, they originated back in the Colonial era, when tobacco was introduced to the European market.  At that time, most people were pretty illiterate, so shops used pictures or statues like cigar store Indians to advertise their wares.  Since tobacco came from the New World, the cigar store Indian was a natural choice.

I'm Cherokee and I don't find the Cigar Store Indian offensive in any way, nor do many of my people that I've asked about it. I treat it as a historic relic of a bygone era.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, February 7, 2008 7:00 AM

We're fortunate to have a few descendents of the original inhabitants of this continent on board with this forum, so I'm going to digress a bit and ask them a question:

Are cigar store Indians offensive to anyone?  To me, they are an historical artifact which is interesting to model.  According to Wikipedia, they originated back in the Colonial era, when tobacco was introduced to the European market.  At that time, most people were pretty illiterate, so shops used pictures or statues like cigar store Indians to advertise their wares.  Since tobacco came from the New World, the cigar store Indian was a natural choice.

Some people equate the cigar store Indian with the Lawn Jockey, which was very common in the 1950's.  The Lawn Jockey, though, was much more of a racial characature, while the cigar store Indian became almost an art form.

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Posted by HHPATH56 on Thursday, February 7, 2008 6:38 AM

You might check with your LHS, or Walther's catalogue.  Woodland Scenics #BR5024 Corner Emporium. I just purchased this HO scale ready-made corner building that is the most detailed building I have ever seen,(for $39.99).  It has an Indian standing in front of the Tobacconists "decaled windowed" shop. There is a angled corner barber shop entrance, with barber's spiraled wall pole, and beautifully decaled and decorated windows. The upstairs (Billiard Room) has windows with decaled Venetian blinds, and detailed roof chimneys, vents,ladder, lights, flag, etc.  Around two sides of the awninged structure are bicycles and the usual trash boxes and cannisters. The entire structure is weathered brick, with black curved baffle interior.     I am thrilled with it.       Bob

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Posted by The Old Man on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 9:13 PM
Thanks for the picture.  However, he's not waving, he's holding a bunch of cigars.  There may be a way to adapt the Preslier to do that.
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 1:34 PM

The waving hand is not out of the realm of the prototype:

 

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Posted by The Old Man on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 12:31 PM

Thanks for the responses.  I'd have to get that waving hand down and remove the stick, I may keep searching.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 11:25 AM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

This is a Preiser figure, currently on sale at Walthers:

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/590-29031

You'll have to repaint him to get a wood look.

I got one about a month ago, thinking to do exactly the same thing.  I was going to put him in front of a store that will be Fidel's Real Cuban Cigars.

Here's an Indian woman to go with your Indian man.

 http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/590-29050

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 11:20 AM

This is a Preiser figure, currently on sale at Walthers:

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/590-29031

You'll have to repaint him to get a wood look.

I got one about a month ago, thinking to do exactly the same thing.  I was going to put him in front of a store that will be Fidel's Real Cuban Cigars.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Need an HO scale cigar store Indian
Posted by The Old Man on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 9:32 AM

Any ideas?

David

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