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call to all for design ideas for my space
Posted by ChessieFan13 on Friday, December 21, 2007 1:37 PM

 

ok here is the plea for expert help planning this room layout.  All of the room can be used.  Shelf type around the walls. HO scale...  wanna put a penunsula on it go 4 it.  Now gonna be running 6 axel diesels ....modern era ..... want some railfaning and some switching.  a yard with diesel facility would be nice as well.  Double track main if possible. Coal mine.....mountian type scenery and a bridge over a river.  I know this is a tall order but yall out there are great and can guide and help me so much.  thanks eversomuch for everything.

If ya cant read the demintions here they are again    as you look at a compass

w= 10 ft 1/2 inches

s= 13 ft 4inches then door at 2 ft 7 inches

e=7 ft 3 inches then closet 30 inches then 4 inches to corner

n=7ft 11 inches to window window width 2 ft 11 inches then 7 ft 1 in to corner

Ohyea if there are any questions ask and  i will do my best to answer them so we can get a plan.  Thanks again.

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Friday, December 21, 2007 2:35 PM
How about era, roadname, location, the basics?

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Posted by bogp40 on Friday, December 21, 2007 2:37 PM
 ChessieFan13 wrote:

 

ok here is the plea for expert help planning this room layout.  All of the room can be used.  Shelf type around the walls. HO scale...  wanna put a penunsula on it go 4 it.  Now gonna be running 6 axel diesels ....modern era ..... want some railfaning and some switching.  a yard with diesel facility would be nice as well.  Double track main if possible. Coal mine.....mountian type scenery and a bridge over a river.  I know this is a tall order but yall out there are great and can guide and help me so much.  thanks eversomuch for everything.

If ya cant read the demintions here they are again    as you look at a compass

w= 10 ft 1/2 inches

s= 13 ft 4inches then door at 2 ft 7 inches

e=7 ft 3 inches then closet 30 inches then 4 inches to corner

n=7ft 11 inches to window window width 2 ft 11 inches then 7 ft 1 in to corner

Ohyea if there are any questions ask and  i will do my best to answer them so we can get a plan.  Thanks again.

JW

So the actual room is: 17'-11" x 10'-1/2" right?

Usable wall=  (S) 13'-4" door to corner, clean wall (W) of 10' and (N) approx. 16' corner across window and keeping 3' away from closet door for swing.

An around the usable wall in a backward "G" shape having a peninsula extending into the room staying 3' away from the closet wall (E) would give you a basic footprint for benchwork. As I see it this would give you the most usable space (isles and reach) and still privide the most area for benchwork.

The only trouble, is what to do across the window and can the AC unit be placed as a thru-wall say @ the upper right outside wall(N) basically straight shot down the 3' isle.

For continuous running and turn at each end, you may have to build as a "U" shape as any peninsula would create an ilse too narrow.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, December 21, 2007 3:00 PM

What requirements do you have for window access?  Do you need to open/close them?  If so, how high are they, and can you do that, for example, by crawling under the layout?

How do you feel about duckunders, liftoffs, swing bridges, etc., to provide access at doorways?

Which way does the door open, in or out?  If in, which side is it on?  And is it possible to make it open out?

Is anyone else really having trouble reading the text in the diagram, even when blown up?  I get the full grid just fine, but the lettering is way too small to read.

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Posted by bogp40 on Friday, December 21, 2007 3:03 PM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

What requirements do you have for window access?  Do you need to open/close them?  If so, how high are they, and can you do that, for example, by crawling under the layout?

How do you feel about duckunders, liftoffs, swing bridges, etc., to provide access at doorways?

Which way does the door open, in or out?  If in, which side is it on?  And is it possible to make it open out?

Is anyone else really having trouble reading the text in the diagram, even when blown up?  I get the full grid just fine, but the lettering is way too small to read.

Yes Mr B, That's why I tried to decipher the compass positions in relation to the diagram and ask to be verified.

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Friday, December 21, 2007 4:19 PM

You know Kalmbach should write a book,

"MRR by shelf module" so you can pick and choose which industries (coal, passenger, steel) and link them together.

Here's my suggestion.  Grab 40 Top Notch Track Plans and Iain Rice's "Small Smart and Manageable Track Plans"  The later author really likes around the shelf layouts and does them fairly well for compact spaces.

That being said, you'll want to use one wall PURELY for staging/yard work.  You'll want your diesel servicing facilities nearby, most likely on an island.

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Friday, December 21, 2007 4:51 PM
BTW: How long is your longest train?  This is important when designing the yard.  You generally don't want more than 80% of your staging yard to be full breaking down a train.

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Friday, December 21, 2007 5:15 PM
 ChessieFan13 wrote:

a yard with diesel facility would be nice as well.  Double track main if possible. Coal mine.....mountian type scenery and a bridge over a river.

Double Track Main...check

Yard Switching with staging and classification...check

Diesel facility on island nearby...check

coal mine trackage here: http://home.online.no/~steinjr/trains/modelling/forum/mine/index.html

R22 minimum...check 

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Posted by ChessieFan13 on Saturday, December 22, 2007 9:30 AM

WOW uall kick some major butt!

Had to work last night sorry for latness of answers.

The window access :  all I need to do is turn unit on/off and clean filter

Duck unders : cool by me lift bridges cool as well.

Doors: no door at room entry and the closet door can be removed.

Era: Modern

Road name: CSX/Chessise/C&O

location: West Virginia

Longest train: As long as I can get

 

Ok.  I think I got all of em' answered .........Man! I cant say it enough Yall  ROCK!  Didnt think Id get this much input! Wow THANKS TO ALL

Bow [bow]

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Posted by bogp40 on Saturday, December 22, 2007 9:48 AM
 ChessieFan13 wrote:

WOW uall kick some major butt!

Era: Modern

Road name: CSX/Chessise/C&O

location: West Virginia

Longest train: As long as I can get

 

Bow [bow]

J.W.                            

Mike,

Looks like you have plenty of space to model. Don't forget to have some of those grades that you can use all those Chessie SD35s as helpers for those coal drags.

Those Atlas SD35s are great. You have B&O blue, Chessie in B&O,C&O and WM. Don't forget the WM circus painted were also used until repainted when shopped.

Of coarse WM 3798 is a GP40, 1 of 5 delivered in that great paint.

"And as Visions of Chessie's Dance in your Head"..........

 

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Posted by ChessieFan13 on Saturday, December 22, 2007 9:48 AM

I made the measurments bigger  hope it helps!

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Posted by ChessieFan13 on Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:57 PM

digitl griffin----what planning program aer you using? and whats the dimentions of the grid?

J.W.

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Saturday, December 22, 2007 7:06 PM

Atlas RTS version 7.  It's free from atlas.  www.atlas-rr.com 

I'll mail you the rts plan file if you want it.  It was only a rough first draft.  It could use some improvement as the staging yard is bigger than the classification yard.  You could also extend the benchwork to 2 1/2' giving you an additional 6" of background space for things like buildings.

The grid is 1' squares.  17'x13' are the dimensions I worked with.

 

 

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Posted by dante on Sunday, December 23, 2007 4:42 PM
Counting the squares indicates 10'x17'?

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