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Modeling from the Prototype
Posted by billbtrain on Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:19 AM

My son,Will,and I are constructing new benchwork for a new layout.It will be a model of the Chicago & Northwestern's Beverly Yard in Cedar Rapids Iowa as it was in 1994 with all the operations in and around this facility modeled over a period of time as layout construction and equipment purchases permit.

This is Beverly as of 1988.There are a few deletions and an addition between the years 1988 and 1994.The stock track,east end pocket track and section house track all removed and a crossover added between the mains on the east end of the yard just before the Edgewood Rd crossing.

Beverly yard was used more as a staging point for interchange with the Cedar Rapids & Iowa City RR and departure and receiving cars of the transfer run to North yard near the downtown area of Cedar Rapids.Crandic's receiving interchange was located east of Beverly,south of main track 2(westbound main).This required a shoving move from Beverly.The receiving interchange from Crandic was located off the Cedar Rapids line a couple of miles from Beverly.The CR line came from the north side of the mains and into Beverly as a running track.The Tower crossovers east of Edgewood road allowed access to the CR line from the south side yard.

Operations at Beverly consisted of yard jobs during three tricks(shifts) These were north and south side yard jobs during weekdays and one or more jobs during afternoon,evening,and weekend tricks as needed (sometimes only the north side jobs).These jobs switched inbound and outbound cars,shoved to Crandic's interchange,transfered to North yard,or pulled cars from the CR line Crandic interchange as required.Loaded coal or grain trains were shoved into the Crandic by the road crews that brought these trains into Cedar Rapids.Empty hoppers and covered hoppers were assembled from the CR line interchange and left on the CR line and a road crew called from Boone Iowa for these trains.

More later.

Have a good one.

Bill B 

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:05 PM

Bill,

 Quite the ambitious project, my hat's off to ya! I'm in the very preliminary design phase of what will hopefully be a layout very loosely based on the Quaker Oats/CCP Yard/4th St. Cooridor area.

I spent a LOT of time at Beverly in the late 80s and early 90s...time I "should've" been spending in the classroom, labs, etc. Oh well, good memories anyways.

Can't wait to see what you come up with for a trackplan for this. In my case, I'm having to "reinvent" the world to get components to fit into the space I've got. Hopefully, if/when its ever built, people "in the know" will recognize the areas...even if they aren't quite where they're "supposed" to be...

 With Jobs 32, 33, 34, and 35 working Beverly, the "Drags" to and from North Yard, road freights like PRDMA/DMPRA, PRCBA/CBPRA, SPBVA/BVSPA, PRKWA/KSPRA, and PRNPB working the yard...you guys will have plenty of operation going on in addition to switching General Mills, and the Crandic moves you mentioned.

 

Good luck!

 

Chris Umscheid

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:19 PM

I'm just estimating, but to build that schematic as is and have the shorter tracks do something will require about 20 ft x 5 ft of space accessible from both sides. And that does not include the yard lead.

Is this what you were thinking as well.

Chip

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Posted by billbtrain on Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:06 PM

Chip,That's close to what I'm figuring.Then as permitted,there will be staging yards on either end of the mainline runs and staging for the Crandic interchange and CR line.

Have a good one.

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Posted by billbtrain on Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:11 PM

Chris-Thank you.

I just received North Western Lines Vol 17 No2 Spring 1990 with the info by Allan Hunt.Altho he only details the yard jobs,your info on the mainline freights helps add pieces to the puzzle.What are the SPBVA/BVSPA trains?

Have a good one.

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:02 AM

Bill, SPBVA/BVSPA was South Pekin (IL) to Beverly and return. Seems like it was pretty heavy with ADM traffic. At times, it ran as a South Pekin to Boone movement (SPBOA/BOSPA). I'm probably forgetting some of the mainline movements, but those were the ones I remembered watching the most.

Don't forget that you also could have some CYBOE (Clinton-Boone Extra) trains coming in to "fill-out" with empty grain hoppers off the South side of the yard. If you backed-up to modeling 1993, you'd have your hands full with all the flood detour traffic that ran through Beverly...

Keep us posted on the design and building of this OK?

 

Chris

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Posted by billbtrain on Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:29 AM

Physical makeup and operations of Beverly Yard

There are 9 yard tracks on the north side,1-9 and 6 on the south side of the mainlines,15-20.The yard jobs were 31 and 32 on duty at 7am,33 and 34 on duty at 3pm,and 35 and 36 on duty at 11pm.Odd numbered jobs worked the north side,even numbered jobs worked the south side.Power for these jobs were kept at the yard office at the east end for the north side jobs and at the west end on whatever track was not intended for any action on the south side.

There were 2 enginehouse tracks and a sandhouse track coming off the RIP track lead on the east end near the yard office.A company material track (track 10) was located on the south side of the carshop.2 RIP tracks(tracks 11 and 12) serviced the carshop.North of the car shop were the wash tracks(tracks 13 and 14) for car cleaning.

A wye was located at the west end of track 9.The tail of this wye leads to the north side of General Mills for spotting cars.Another spur serviced GM on the south side of the building,this came off of the wash track lead from the west end.Covered hoppers of sugar or starch are spotted indoors for unloading on both spurs.Outbound product goes by truck.

Crossings in the area are Old Bridge Rd at the west end protected by crossbucks only.Edgewood Rd protected by gates and lights and 26th St crossing east of the Tower crossovers protected by gates and lights on the mainline tracks and lights only for the CR line.Hwy 30 crosses at this location on an overpass over the main tracks and the CR line.

More later.

Have a good one.

Bill B 

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Posted by billbtrain on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:06 AM
 AmanaMedic wrote:

Bill, SPBVA/BVSPA was South Pekin (IL) to Beverly and return. Seems like it was pretty heavy with ADM traffic. At times, it ran as a South Pekin to Boone movement (SPBOA/BOSPA). I'm probably forgetting some of the mainline movements, but those were the ones I remembered watching the most.

Don't forget that you also could have some CYBOE (Clinton-Boone Extra) trains coming in to "fill-out" with empty grain hoppers off the South side of the yard. If you backed-up to modeling 1993, you'd have your hands full with all the flood detour traffic that ran through Beverly...

Keep us posted on the design and building of this OK?

 

Chris

Thanks,Chris.If you haven't already done so,read my other thread on 'Layout Construction with Dominoes' and see how I'm doing it all.I'm working on the first 2 dominoes,one for the east end and one for the west end of Beverly.

Have a good one.

Bill B 

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Posted by billbtrain on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:33 AM

Now that I've covered most of the prototype info,I can detail what I plan to do with the model.

The benchwork for the model of Beverly yard in HO scale will consist of 4'X2' domino sections,beginning with 2 dominoes,one each for the east and west ends of the yard.These are 1X4 frames with 1/4" masonite tops.I'll be attaching Woodland Scenics 12"X24" foam roadbed sheets to each domino(4 pieces).All track will be Atlas code 83.I'll start with the mainlines centered 1 1/8" each from the domino centerline,giving a 1 1/4" track center spacing for the mainlines.The reason for this is that the groundthrows for the crossovers will be between the mainlines.All yard tracks will be on 2" centers working away from each mainline.This allows me to have yard tracks 1-5 on the north side and 15-19 on the south side.All secured track will end 1" from the edge of each domino and have a 2" 'bridge' track section spanning the joint between dominoes.

I'll be using no.8 turnouts for the mainline crossovers and no.6 for all other locations.I can only get 4 turnouts on each side of the yard on each domino(the diverging turnout and 3 ladder turnouts).The rest will have to be located on the next domino section built as time allows.For now I will work on these 2 dominoes and setup staging sections so we can begin some limited operations.

I plan to use Digitrax DCC for operations.This requires only 2 bus wires under the layout with feeder wires to each track on each domino.I use Atlas terminal joiners for feeders and have never had problems with shorts or loss of power.Plus I like the idea of not having to solder anything!

More later.

Have a good one.

Bill B 

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:15 PM

Bill, I think I'm starting to like this "dominoes" concept.

One thing you'll need, on the East end at the "Tower Crossing" (26th. St.) will be a light/medium blue 1984 Chevy Celebrity. It should have a scruffy looking 20-something sitting on the hood. He should have a CNW cap on, a portable radio, a camera bag with a pair of Nikon FM-2's, and a handheld scanner. You'll also need the 'Iowa Blackie' graffitti on the steel power pole at this crossing...

 Seriously though, sounds like you're off to a flying start on this! You've got me hooked...

 

Stay SAFE...

 

Chris

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Posted by billbtrain on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:46 AM
 AmanaMedic wrote:

Bill, I think I'm starting to like this "dominoes" concept.

One thing you'll need, on the East end at the "Tower Crossing" (26th. St.) will be a light/medium blue 1984 Chevy Celebrity. It should have a scruffy looking 20-something sitting on the hood. He should have a CNW cap on, a portable radio, a camera bag with a pair of Nikon FM-2's, and a handheld scanner. You'll also need the 'Iowa Blackie' graffitti on the steel power pole at this crossing...

 Seriously though, sounds like you're off to a flying start on this! You've got me hooked...

 

Stay SAFE...

 

Chris

Chris,I'll have to add those to my list of details to purchase to complete the scene!Laugh [(-D]

By 'scruffy' I take it you mean unshaven,wild hair,and overly worn clothing(the kind you don't dare wash,but can't seem to part with).Has he bathed lately?I ask because it may be hard to simulate having flies buzzing around in HO.Of course these dang Iowa flies tend to buzz around a person no matter what the smell like!Laugh [(-D]

Have a good one.

Bill B 

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:39 PM

Hey, I didn't get THAT nasty... *grin*

 I was just your "typical" early 20's college bum...I mean, "student." Showered everyday, hair was a bit "wild," at times...but quite presentable in the company of "nice" people...

Now "Iowa Blackie" on the other hand... nice guy, but one to stay upwind of...

 Back to your Beverly project... I think I've got a line-up or two floating around here yet, listing many, many movements through the yard. I had a whole stack of line-ups and N. Yard switch lists...until my dog had a "puppy moment" and became a four-legged paper shreader. If I find it, I'll post it here for ya...

 

Happy and SAFE Thanksgiving!

 

Formerly "scruffy" Chris

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Posted by billbtrain on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:05 PM
 AmanaMedic wrote:

 Back to your Beverly project... I think I've got a line-up or two floating around here yet, listing many, many movements through the yard. I had a whole stack of line-ups and N. Yard switch lists...until my dog had a "puppy moment" and became a four-legged paper shreader. If I find it, I'll post it here for ya...

 

Happy and SAFE Thanksgiving!

 

Formerly "scruffy" Chris

Thanks Chris.That would be cool to read.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

Bill B 

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:12 AM

Chicago and North Western Transportation Company

                         Train Location Report (Line-Up)                                                             

To: All Concerned                                                                                         At: Beverly

Line Up No. 176                                                                                 Date: June 10 1993

Subdivision: East Iowa

 

Direction: WW

Engine  Alpha         Leave From               After                Remarks

****  *****   ****************  ********   **************************

        GLLA6     Norway                      0507

       PRCBA     Marshalltown               0600

8510 SHBTX    Clinton                       0455

       MLTA2   Clinton                         0520

       PRNPV   Clinton                         0530

6500 PRDMA  Clinton                         0535

7010 ELNPA  Clinton                          0540

       APKA6  Clinton                          0545

       MITK6  Clinton                          0600

       SPBOA Clinton                          0630

       CYBOY Clinton                          0700

       EXTRA Clinton                          0730

       PRNPA Clinton                          0800

       PRNPE Clinton                          0815

       EXTRA Clinton                          0845

       PRKCA Clinton                          0900

       CSNPZ Clinton                          1000

       BVBOY Beverly                         1100

       MTBMX Marshalltown                 0645

       WBO80 Boone                          0730   Works between Marshalltown and Boone

       MTMCA Marshalltown               0800

      EXTRA Marshalltown                 0900

      YEG54 Ames West                    0730  Works between KC Jct. and Ames West

      EXTRA KC Jct. West                 0800

                                                           After 0730 All Trains May Use Trk 1 Between

                                                           Crossover at MP 89.9 And Crossover at MP 117.4

                                                           Until Released.

 

Direction: EW

      BOCYG  Low Moor                   0358

      CBPRA  Grand Mound               0510

     DMPRA   Lowden                     0453

     TAML1  Lowden                      0524

      NPCRA  Lowden                     0542

      BOCYG Mechanicsville            0546

      NPCSE  CR Bridge                  0520

     NASHC  KC Jct. East               0645

      PDCSZ Boone                       0645

      TACX2 Boone                       0700

      BOCYG Boone                       0715

      WBO80 Boone                       0730  Works between Boone and Marshalltown

      NPPTA Boone                       0745

      BMCEC Boone                      0800

      EXTRA Boone                      0815

      ATBPC Boone                      0830

      DKWKC Boone                     0845

      NACPC Boone                      0900

     CUITW  Boone                     0915

     BTPPC Boone                       0930

      NPPTE Boone                     1000

     NPCSZ Boone                      1015

                                                        After 0730 All Trains May Use Trk 1 Between

                                                        Crossover at MP 117.4 and Crossover at MP 89.9

                                                        Until Released. 12 More Extra Trains Expected to

                                                        Run after 0730 From Boone Ames West KC Jct East

                                                        Marshalltown and Beverly. No More Lines Allowed on

                                                        Line Up Screen

 

Line-Up Void: 1630

Dispatcher: JAB

 

Train Location Report Sent at 0643 06/10/93

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Posted by billbtrain on Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:53 PM

Thanks for posting the lineup,Chris.

Happy Thanksgiving one and all.

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Friday, November 23, 2007 7:02 PM

Glad to!

 

Hope it helps! Sure looks like you'll have plenty of trains to "run through" and "work" the yard.

 

Keep us posted on the progress....

 

Chris

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Posted by billbtrain on Friday, November 30, 2007 11:44 AM

We have 2 dominoes completed and materials for 2 more.We bought roadbed sheets and 2 more switches yesterday and plan to start laying track this weekend.

Have a good one.

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Friday, November 30, 2007 10:15 PM

Looks like it should be a good weekend for layout building...

Thanks for posting the dominos plans. If nothing else, its helping me see just how much track I can put into a given space.

 Stay safe,

 

Chris

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Posted by billbtrain on Saturday, December 1, 2007 8:49 AM

You're welcome,Chris.Unfortunately I have to work today 11am to 8pm and it's already started with a mix of freezing rain and snow(started about 8:30am my time).I'll be posting more plans tonight if we have power.If not,then we'll be working on the layout by lantern light(battery operated)Laugh [(-D]

Have a good one.

Bill B 

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