Two reason I wanted a seprate loop.
1 To be honest I like the brew while MRRing. Like to be able to run 3 trains and not need to watch about hitting each other.
2 Main reason, to get to where I want to be the rest of my crud bench needs to come down and be redone. But with the hours I work it would take a year or more to get back sizes I am now. So I need something to run on, the C line would be the answer.
OK, lets drop the 2 loop layout, just the A line that goes on to the new section. You can all so drop the 4 way turn out to get on the bench, but it could be used as a Y as well.
Hoople, I did not see a track plain. Did you post one?
Spaces Mouse I love to see some of your ideas as well.
As far as pulling power, I have some good pullers. Just up grade a old Blue Box FP-45 war bonnet with a new Athearn Hex Drive with DCC. Added 1 oz of lead and must say I and inpressed.
Thanks all again for the answers and looking forward to giving some stuff away.
Cuda Ken
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NYCentral1 wrote: Hoople wrote: Cuda, If your ok with 22"s in a mountainous loopy ordeal with one track that runs up to a coal mine and back down in 5x8, I could probably do something in RTS for you. I think I will for the heck of it.Pretty much what I already covered on my two designs in RTS (see above).
Hoople wrote: Cuda, If your ok with 22"s in a mountainous loopy ordeal with one track that runs up to a coal mine and back down in 5x8, I could probably do something in RTS for you. I think I will for the heck of it.
Cuda, If your ok with 22"s in a mountainous loopy ordeal with one track that runs up to a coal mine and back down in 5x8, I could probably do something in RTS for you. I think I will for the heck of it.
Pretty much what I already covered on my two designs in RTS (see above).
No, the one I made is quite different.
Hi Ken:
This is not a plan I designed but I think it deserves your consideration. This is the origional plan of legendary John Allen. It is I believe 4'x8' but it could be enlarged to fit your space. This would give larger radius curves tohandle your bigger engines. I think rather than just adding a couple of loopsthis would give you a branch line. You could use smaller locos on this branch & interchange with with your existing layout. Anyways food for thought.
Tom
Cudaken, like Gandy Dancer said earlier, with that space you could put a really nice scenic extension of your current layout complete with broad curves, mountains/hills, a grade and some other nice features like online industries. I think that is what you want but you also want the double loop, and that is probably just too much to squeeze in.
--Nick
I've been thinking about this since you first posted it. I think you are missing some great possibilities on two counts.
First by requiring two independent loops on the new extension. This makes the new section into a second small layout with all the related limitations of a continuous run 4x8 type layout. What is the core desire to have this characteristic of the layout.
Second by not merging the existing main line (at least the outside loop of it) into the new territory. This maintains the small layout issues, look and feel on the old section. It reminds me of that first simple loop that is extended with a cut off so there is a second smaller loop inside it. Yawn. Is there a reason you want the orbits for the trains so short?
Well, to be honest I thought it was kind of fun trying to draw something up for you... I think the Atlas track program is very easy to use, so it took no time at all. I see what you mean about going down instead of up on your outside mainline so you can fit in an overhead crossover of some kind. Just fiddle around with it when you get all the supplies and I'm sure you'll find what you want.
If you have any other questions or anything, I'll help if I can.
I am not that worried about the big engine's running on the C line. A line, well yep. But I all so have the B line that the Big Boys and Y-6B's can run on as well.
I have all so came up with a plain much like the one you took your time to come up with. Draw back I do not see any places for a grade.
Now, remember I have 1.75" foam on the bench and today I had a idea. I can cut out the foam and use the foam risers backwards so I can lower the A line to a point where the C- Line might be able to cross over the A line with out a super grade!
With the plan I came up with that is some like like yours I am sure you saw a places for a wye if I spelled it right.
I can also drop the bench a nother 1/2" and add more foam.
I all so you to know I turly thank you for your time. It means a lot to me that you have what little free time to help me with this project.
I was all so hoping for a few more ideas as well from you other folks!
Think your big engines would like that? Also, there is plenty of room for some scenery and a nice hill in the middle.
I used all code 83 Atlas sectional in this, I think that may be what you are using now?
Oh, so you want to have a "double" track around this table, your A line and an additional line inside of it...
I just thought you wanted a single whole different "line" on this table that connected it to the rest. Well, I tried right?
Frequent power outages? Yep, this last year has been bad, 2 days with out power in Dec 2006 and 2007 out about 4 times for 2 to 10 hours. I brought the candels out about 3 weeks ago so I could weathered some coal cars.
Far as dropping by that would be great!
Here is crude and quick drawing of what I have in mind.
A Line would go around the C Line on the new bench. C line would be it's own line and not need the A line excpet to recive a train.
As far as it being to small, when I started this section it was a 8' X 5' foot section. I then added 1.5 foot section to get it to the currnet 9.5 X 5 foot. It sure seemed big at the time but not now. Will draw a idea that came to me. It will shift the track to the right a foot (Pic I first posted) so I can added a few more feet to the bench.
Nick PM me your address I have something for you! It is from my days of The Need For Speed! From my Keith Black 528 CI Nitro Hemi. At one point I had 32 of them, down to 6. Started giving them a way to Mopar Friends that made mistakes. Kind of my Dumb --- awards but in a fun way. I will added I like the plain and thank you for posting it.
rayw46 wrote: Whatever you do, ditch the candelabra. It may be prototypical but it's the wrong era.
rayw46 wrote: Whatever you do, ditch the candelabra. It may be prototypical but it's the wrong era.Ray
Whatever you do, ditch the candelabra. It may be prototypical but it's the wrong era.
Ray
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I agree, get rid of the candelabra....
I'll send you some HOT chic pin up posters. Jessica Rabbit is getting kind of old
I saw your post earlier, and just thought I would try and throw together something on the Atlas track program... I don't know what you'll think of it, but I just thought I would throw it out there.
If you have any questions about the markings or anything, I can explain them better.
Craig, the above is a PIC is something I had in mind. I have bought the needed turn outs and cross over section. I need to find the time to do a mock up to make sure it will fit. C line is at the bottom and A line is the top. If you need more details I will take more PIC's or do a better drawing of what I have now.
I will add that all of the work I have done excpet the frame work will be removed in need.
All so thank you for the answer as well.
I will try to help. I would be very helpful to see a drawing of what you have and where you would like to connect the A and C line.
If you want to park 25-40 cars, this will take up a lot of room. If you will be parking these at the mine, I would put a mountain in the middle of the new part, and then run the track up into the mountain to the mine. You would get your grade that you want.
Craig
I know it takes some time to come up with a good layout plan. I bulit the new section say 4 months ago and still stumped to what I want to bulid.
What I like is a rual setting, hills, tress but with 1 to 2 industrail sites one being a coal mine. I would like to park around 25 to 40 rolling stock but fewer would be OK as well. That is why I have boxes, lot of boxes I will added.
I need a continuous loop for the new section and a seprate line that will feed into what I will call the C line of the new bench but will all so hook up to my A line on the main bench. I all so want some grade around 2% just for the heck of it, if there is room for a tressl so one train can pass over another that would be great.
Bench it self is 5' X 9' and is based on 2' X 4', 1/2 plywood and 1.75 foam on top of it. I will all so be using foam riser for the grade. Looking for something in the intermediate skill level.
Scale is HO, needed 22" turns on the out side that will go to my main bench like the same on the continuous loop on the new bench but smaller would be OK.
Goal is to run around 10 to 15 cars max on the C line, hope to run steam. Little bite of yard work but still not into that much at this point. I am all so running DCC mer E-Z by Bachmann but will be up grading if I stop buying Steam engines.
Few Pic of the bench you have to work with.
What is done can and will be redone.
Prizes, couple of levels.
Plain I like $25.00 or a PK E-6 DCC ready Santa Fe War Bonnet
Drop by and Help PK 2000 E-7 with QSI sound (more than 6 hours) War Bonnet again.
You bulid and I supply the parts? Well I have a PCM Big Boy with no sound or a PCM Y6B with sound.
Any one that takes the time to answer with a plan? Hum not sure but I will find something for you.