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Dusty Water/ What to Do ?
Posted by C&O Fan on Friday, July 20, 2007 7:35 AM

My woodland scenes river now has a layer of dust on it Angry [:(!]

If i try to wipe the dust it just scratches the surface

Is there any way to fix this problem ?

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Posted by claymore1977 on Friday, July 20, 2007 7:43 AM

Try using a damp cloth and blotting the dust.  Dunno if that will work, just a guess that it might though.

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Posted by C&O Fan on Friday, July 20, 2007 7:50 AM
 claymore1977 wrote:

Try using a damp cloth and blotting the dust.  Dunno if that will work, just a guess that it might though.

 

Nope Tried that! Didn't work  Banged Head [banghead]

The problem is Woodland Scenes Water never fully hardens like glass

If i'd known that i'd have used something else

I'm afraid to use any thing more than water ie Windex for fear of

smearing the surface

 

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Posted by claymore1977 on Friday, July 20, 2007 7:59 AM

Another guess:  Low velocity pressurized air?  Or perhaps a hair dryer on low (or no) heat?

When wiping, I understand it scratches the surface, but does the dust come up?  If so, can you use a little heat from a hot air gun to smooth the scratches out?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, July 20, 2007 8:13 AM

I haven't used this stuff, but can you just pour on another very thin layer?

Or, better yet, can you pour on a thin layer of epoxy which will give you a nice hard surface?  Does anyone know if this would work?

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Posted by C&O Fan on Friday, July 20, 2007 10:21 AM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

I haven't used this stuff, but can you just pour on another very thin layer?

Or, better yet, can you pour on a thin layer of epoxy which will give you a nice hard surface?  Does anyone know if this would work?

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poring another layer is my last resort

I don't know about the Epoxy

Maybe someone else here does

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Posted by selector on Friday, July 20, 2007 11:27 AM

Vacuum with a brush attachment.  Be quick and gentle.

Spray water onto what's left behind.  Blot vertically with dampened facecloth after a few short seconds.  Wipe with a damp chamois.

Count of a gloss medium resurfacing every fourth or fifth cleaning...as needed.

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Posted by C&O Fan on Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:07 AM
 claymore1977 wrote:

Another guess:  Low velocity pressurized air?  Or perhaps a hair dryer on low (or no) heat?

When wiping, I understand it scratches the surface, but does the dust come up?  If so, can you use a little heat from a hot air gun to smooth the scratches out?

 

No when i wipe it very little dust comes up it just smears

Wish i had a hair dryer !

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Posted by C&O Fan on Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:10 AM
 selector wrote:

Vacuum with a brush attachment.  Be quick and gentle.

Spray water onto what's left behind.  Blot vertically with dampened facecloth after a few short seconds.  Wipe with a damp chamois.

Count of a gloss medium resurfacing every fourth or fifth cleaning...as needed.

 

 

I'll try that Selector

Thanks

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Posted by bogp40 on Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:47 AM

Terry,

I never have any luck with any of the WS products for water. The Realistic water has done the same for me. The semi hard surface even poured in the layers as directed is just too soft, it actually doesn't even stay flat. Irregularities in the finish appear over time.

I would suggest repouring with a thin layer of Enviorotex. The 2 part resin is very durable and will also give a surface to add gloss medium to show ripples, waves or any turbulence if so desired. WS water effects or translucent acrylic caulk will also do for serious wave or turbulence (around bridge piers, rocks etc) for faster moving water.

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Posted by Geohan on Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:01 AM

A six inch length of 3/8-inch tubing pressed into a hole in a round wooden plug that fits into the  end of the vacuum cleaner hose is a very useful cleaning tool.  If fearful of sucking up small parts or if trying to find small parts that have been droped on the floor, insert some pantyhose in the vac hose like you would for a plastic liner in a trash bin.  The plug will hold it in place.  This works great for cleaning small areas.  A word of caution, the tubing increases the suction and restricts the air flow so the vac motor may overheat with prolonged use.

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Posted by selector on Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:15 AM

To both of you last two gentlemen, I agree.  A two part epoxy (see your hardware store) is simple and hard...very durable.  The only tricky part is if you want ripples or waves.  Takes some doing.

As for a narrow aperture implement to vacuum, most vacuums come with a crevice tool.  That would do a very good job of getting up close to 90% of what is deposited.  However, the plastic will leave marks if it makes contact with the surface, which it is sure to do.  It would not leave marks with something harder, like Envirotex or a cheaper version that you can get at any hardware store.   You want a clear epoxy that comes in a small box with two plastic bottles.  One of them will be resin, and the other will be a hardener.  I believe the resin is often a bit yellow, but it will dry to a nice shiny clear "water".

Just be sure to dam the edges of any little place where the pour could creep under or over things.  Use masking tape pressed tightly and thoroughly with finger tips.  Place three layers of newspaper under the area of the pour just in case.   Ask me if I was thankful for remembering this the second time I poured water.  Go ahead....ask me. Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by reklein on Saturday, July 21, 2007 7:13 PM
You could just say that your layout is experiencing a heavy pollen season. I have seen real lakes covered with pollen. Seriously, RadioShack makes a spry can duster that might work pretty good. They use em for blowing the dust out of computers.
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Posted by perry1060 on Saturday, July 21, 2007 7:54 PM

I used a two-part resin available at Michael's Arts and Crafts called Pour-On. I mixed river green acrylic paint directly into the wet mix and the resin set up hard as glass in 6-9 hours. I poured my rivers a few years back, and clean off dust with a damp towel every month or so.

 

 

 

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Posted by reklein on Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:22 PM
Perry, I'da thought you'd have yer Godzilla equiped with a dustmop.Tongue [:P]
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Posted by C&O Fan on Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:14 AM

Can i pour the Enviorotex or the Pour On overtop of the WS Realistic Water ?

I like the color of your river Perry

How do you keep that big lizzard from stirring up the mud ?

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Posted by selector on Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:51 AM

Absolutely.  In fact, it would have made an excellent surface on which to pour something you don't want running out of tiny holes and cracks, so the surface you have down already is ideal. 

 But....you may want to consider "improving" your paint job so that your new surface looks more realistic.  I say this not having any idea what it looks like at present, but if you have had doubts about its looks, now's the time to do the paint job all over again, and the current surface should take acrylics very nicely, thank-you.  Once you have your river bottom nicely painted with the different hues and tones to suggest variations in depth and tubidity, do a couple of thin pours....keep them to the 1/16"-3/32" range if you can....thin is good, even if you have to do three or four pours.

If bubbles show up after or before the pours, don't forget light blowing through a soda straw.  They'll magically disappear.

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Posted by BigRusty on Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:43 PM
I recently had a garage floor epoxy coating done. The final coat was clear epoxy that dried as hard as glass. Looks gorgeous. The minute I saw it, I thought "what about for water? I bought another carton and will be experimenting with it. Each kit has a gallon of clear plus another can of the activator. I could do Long Island Sound with that much.
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Posted by Medina1128 on Monday, July 23, 2007 1:03 PM
I made my water with Mod-Podge, available from Wal-Mart in the crafts section and am very pleased with the results. Not only does it dry hard, I find that I can blot it with a damp cotton cloth. Don't wipe, blot!!
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Posted by rustycoupler on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:57 PM
 the layout i built for mth we use plain water and dry it with a shammi. thats only if its a smooth surface.

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