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Layout pics... first layout... try not to laugh

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Layout pics... first layout... try not to laugh
Posted by jkroft on Monday, July 16, 2007 6:14 PM

 Been working when I can...  I found a lot of things that I won't do next time.  The crossing gates were by far the biggest pain-in-the-rear...

 

 

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Monday, July 16, 2007 6:21 PM
Very nice work. I love the working signals.
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Posted by pcarrell on Monday, July 16, 2007 7:12 PM

Are you kidding me?!?

That looks GREAT!

Fortunately, the world will never be subjected to looking upon the monstrocity that was my first layout.  It was a 4x8 (amazing, huh?) that was painted green and had three buildings on it, each assembled with an entire tube of glue.

What you have there is a work of art in progress!  Be proud of it!

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Posted by scubaterry on Monday, July 16, 2007 7:30 PM
JK - I didn't find a darned thing to laugh about! Great job. It looks real good so far. I like your rock/vegetation hills up behind the bridge. They turned out really good. I would however talk to the county road supervisior about those yellow road stripes. Just kidding. I have tried several differant methods of painting road stripes and the only one I like so far is using a sharp tipped magic marker and a straight edge. No bleed over and it is fast and simple. Great job so far and looking forward to seeing more pics.
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Posted by jkroft on Monday, July 16, 2007 7:35 PM

Thanks!

 I truly appreciate the encouragement.  Unfortunately, my job takes me out to sea a lot. (US Navy... submarine).  This is about a year+ worth of work.  I love the Peco 55 performance and I their twin coils work perfectly with the turnouts.  I will never build a bench that is 3 feet wide out from the wall again (2 feet max next time) and 3% grades are still too much for one Kato SD-70 with only 7 loaded intermodals (and forget about my Atlas SD-50... not nearly as powerful as the Katos).  On the fortunate side, my trackwork turned out great, I've improved soldering skills, I haven't accidentally reversed any feeders and I've remembered insulated joiners at every turnout.  Also, I've found that IR detectors in my hidden staging are far more valuable than I ever expected.  My biggest weakness was designing the benchwork.  I have less than adequate access to hidden track in some spots that I'm sure will come back to haunt me.  Yet the most satisfying part of all of this is laying plaster cloth...  I don't know why, but I think it's weird!  Oh yeah, I definitely need a better method of painting double yellow lines!  That's the part I'm most unhappy about!

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Posted by selector on Monday, July 16, 2007 8:26 PM
That is waaaay better than my first layout.  I really, really like the way your river turned out.  Two thumbs up for that.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 16, 2007 8:43 PM
It looks great.  I love the bridge and the scenery behind it!  It looks fantastic for a first layout.  Very spiffy.
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Posted by ARTHILL on Monday, July 16, 2007 8:59 PM
Very nice. Where you have worked on the scenery, your artistry is quite good. I agree on the 3 foot problem. By the way, thanks for your service on the boat.
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Posted by loathar on Monday, July 16, 2007 9:37 PM
Laugh at WHAT??Confused [%-)] The only thing that I see doesn't look great are the yellow road lines.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 16, 2007 9:48 PM

This... is nice work! This is how layouts should be done... a little bit at a time steady and slow.

Dont be so hard of yer self!

Speaking of layouts that ought not to reveal themselves to society for the really mutated and deep flaws that can damage the builder or any who look upon them... I have one and it ought to be quietly burned or chopped up into little peices and thrown away; moldy and all.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:17 AM

I'll laugh... he he... he he... at myself...  Sigh [sigh]

I for one do like those yellow lines, because they seem (somewhat) precise, and they look prototypically accurate as far as the distance between them two lines go. 

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:48 AM

Great job!

Really nice looking RR so far.

 By the way, thanks for your service to our country!!!! 

 

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Posted by Bone on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 8:06 AM
Those clouds look great in the last pic. How did you paint your backdrop?
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Posted by CSXFan on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:08 AM
That looks great, thanks for sharing. Got any more pics?
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Posted by donhalshanks on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:20 AM

Really a nice job, and it looks great.  You don't have to apologize for anything.  Keep going as you get time and have fun, the only way to do it.  Also, thanks for serving our country.

Hal 

 

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Posted by Cederstrand on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:11 PM

Looks like a great start to me. Nice detail and color. Post more photos as you make progress on it. Hope I am as successful when I begin my first real layout. Technically, the first one was along the lines of Philip's, 4'x8' board, etc. Was just a little kid and at the time more interested in seeing which engine could pull the most, go the fastest, etc. Was like an N scale Olympics...those poor little engines!  

And most important..."Thank You for Serving!" Which Sub are you on?

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Posted by aaron279279 on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:36 PM

Great job! I think your road looks great, im not the talented so i have to use the already made roads.

 

 

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Posted by jacon12 on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:46 PM

Laugh?  At what?  It looks mighty fine to me, I love your scenery work, especially the low bushes.  What did you use for them? 

Man, if this is your first.. your second will probably be in Model Railroader magazine.

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Posted by jkroft on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:52 PM

Again, I appreciate the vote of confidence.  I started out just buying a Woodland scenics scenery kit.  I've been using their stuff since...  although it does get expensive.  I wanted to start with a medium size layout, yet this is much more time consuming than I imagined.  I never had anything but a general track plan that I came up with in Atlas right-track.  From there, I kinda went with the flow without any firm plan.  I just wanted to figure out how to lay track, wire, and build scenery.  The plan is a complete loop with three additional hidden staging tracks.  I put in a small intermodal facility with structures mostly from Stewart, Pikestuff and Micro-eng., but the rest is still up in the air.  I have the ADM grain elevator and lumber yard from walthers, and a few freight houses to put somewhere but I'm not sure where.  At the other side, I have space for something else... again not sure what yet.  I may put up a coal or gravel facility, or just a few smaller businesses served by rail.  I love tanker cars...  Any ideas?  Also, anyone know where to get older Kato NS?  just curious.  By the way, I'm on the USS Rhode Island.  Thanks for asking!

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Posted by jacon12 on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:30 PM

 

 John, in another life I was on the USS Forrestal, CVA 59.  I was off before the big fire.

Jarrell

 

 jkroft wrote:

Again, I appreciate the vote of confidence.  I started out just buying a Woodland scenics scenery kit.  I've been using their stuff since...  although it does get expensive.  I wanted to start with a medium size layout, yet this is much more time consuming than I imagined.  I never had anything but a general track plan that I came up with in Atlas right-track.  From there, I kinda went with the flow without any firm plan.  I just wanted to figure out how to lay track, wire, and build scenery.  The plan is a complete loop with three additional hidden staging tracks.  I put in a small intermodal facility with structures mostly from Stewart, Pikestuff and Micro-eng., but the rest is still up in the air.  I have the ADM grain elevator and lumber yard from walthers, and a few freight houses to put somewhere but I'm not sure where.  At the other side, I have space for something else... again not sure what yet.  I may put up a coal or gravel facility, or just a few smaller businesses served by rail.  I love tanker cars...  Any ideas?  Also, anyone know where to get older Kato NS?  just curious.  By the way, I'm on the USS Rhode Island.  Thanks for asking!

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Posted by nbrodar on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:10 PM

Laugh at what?!   Thankfully, no photos exist of my first um...layout.Cool [8D]

Keep up the good work. 

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Posted by Hoople on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:07 PM
First layout? Looks like something a seasoned model railroader would make!
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Posted by fireman216 on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:34 PM
What product is the road material???

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Posted by Kent on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:19 AM

Looks good to meApprove [^]

 

 

 

 

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Posted by claymore1977 on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:05 AM

 jkroft wrote:
By the way, I'm on the USS Rhode Island.  Thanks for asking!

Did you happen to know an electrician named Rancourt?  He was onboard around 2000 timeframe.

Anyways, looking at the pics, I must say:  Pretty good for a halftime sailor!  (Fast Attack Tough here)  And I only say that because of my insane jealousy that you could actually accomplish ANYTHING while onboard.  I had to wait until I sold my soul to teach at prototype before I had time to even think model railroading!  Keep up the good work slick!

How much time you have left on your current tour?  Whats your rate by the way?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:26 AM
Really nice.  Who makes the crossing gates you used, and how are you controlling them?

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Posted by UP2CSX on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:02 AM

Hi John,

Your work looks great, especially for a guy who's at sea for a year at a time. I'm building my first layout after 25 years out of the hobby and haven't had the courage to post any pics yet so you're way ahead of me.

Maybe a propane facility would fit in the space you have in mind. I think MR just had an article on building a propane facility a month or two ago. You'd be able to use all the tank cars you wanted with a propane plant.

My dad served on PT boats in the Pacific in WWII. Any guy that's willing to fight in a wooden boat or a steel boat 700 feet under water is a lot braver than me. Thanks for helping to keep us safe.

Regards, Jim 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:31 PM

A Boomer working in the hobby? Then I know anything is possible:

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Posted by jkroft on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:52 PM
 claymore1977 wrote:

 jkroft wrote:
By the way, I'm on the USS Rhode Island.  Thanks for asking!

Did you happen to know an electrician named Rancourt?  He was onboard around 2000 timeframe.

Anyways, looking at the pics, I must say:  Pretty good for a halftime sailor!  (Fast Attack Tough here)  And I only say that because of my insane jealousy that you could actually accomplish ANYTHING while onboard.  I had to wait until I sold my soul to teach at prototype before I had time to even think model railroading!  Keep up the good work slick!

How much time you have left on your current tour?  Whats your rate by the way?

Dave,

It's funny to hear someone talking about fast attacks and prototype.  I'm a nuke ET2 with about 2 years and some change left.  I love off-crew life, although politics, lip-service training and IDE sessions get in the way.  What prototype were you at?  Anyway, I got there in January of '06...  Don't know a Rancourt.  I can only imagine the pain you had to endure on a fast-attack...  I've only heard stories.  What boat were you on?

 Anyway, the crossing gates are NJ international and I have a Servomaster system to operate them, which is made by TDP & Associates but marketed with NJI.  I actually ordered it directly from trainspeed.com and had them program it a little differently than marketed (less delay time for the gates to drop).  The Servomaster is a little pricey, yet it is a well designed system.

The road material is just Woodland Scenics' Smooth-it. 

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Posted by Medina1128 on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:06 PM

Laugh at what?? It looks great.. although, I have a suggestion about the road lines. Get some pinstriping tape from AutoZone. It's flexible enough to bend around sharp curves. Lie one down first, about 1/16" wide. This will be your area between the lines. Then pull one on either side of that, leaving a gap between the first line. Once it's all down, spray paint it yellow. Before the paint dries, peel up the tape.

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