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Scale ground throw
Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 11:31 AM

I have just seen offered an O scale Adlake working ground throw (he calls it a switch stand, guess real railroads do that) and it is lighted too. Wonder in this age of 3D printing in metal if an HO scale one can be made?

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 11:39 AM

You probably can, but would it worth the time, expense and effort? 

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:10 PM

Hey, I don't need the lighting and the O scale ones are only $25 each, not bought in bulk.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:37 PM

rrebell

I have just seen offered an O scale Adlake working ground throw (he calls it a switch stand, guess real railroads do that) and it is lighted too. Wonder in this age of 3D printing in metal if an HO scale one can be made?

 

Check out this Shapeways page.
 
 
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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:01 PM

rrebell

I have just seen offered an O scale Adlake working ground throw (he calls it a switch stand, guess real railroads do that) and it is lighted too. Wonder in this age of 3D printing in metal if an HO scale one can be made?

 

 

I suspect you'll break a real scale working ground throw with you big gigantasorus fingers.

Why not use these, and keep your fingers to yourself:

 

https://rapidotrains.com/railcrew-switch-stand/

 

They look kinda neat.

 

 

 

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Posted by PC101 on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:15 PM

Maybe these will work like you want them to?   http://www.njinternational.com/switch.htm 

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 10:44 PM

PC101

Maybe these will work like you want them to?   http://www.njinternational.com/switch.htm 

 

Looks like they have upped their game some.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 10:45 PM

7j43k

 

 
rrebell

I have just seen offered an O scale Adlake working ground throw (he calls it a switch stand, guess real railroads do that) and it is lighted too. Wonder in this age of 3D printing in metal if an HO scale one can be made?

 

 

 

 

I suspect you'll break a real scale working ground throw with you big gigantasorus fingers.

Why not use these, and keep your fingers to yourself:

 

https://rapidotrains.com/railcrew-switch-stand/

 

They look kinda neat.

 

 

 

Ed

 

These don't work without a switch machine

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 10:48 PM

No what I asume is that the O scale one is 3-D printed in brass.

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:30 AM

The Rapido switchstand is available separately, and they come with the cam so you can drive them off the throwbar.

The Central Valley switchstand does too.

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:59 AM

I don't recall that Adlake (AKA Adams & Westlake Company) ever made any type of switchstand.

Racor, Wabtec, Buda, Ajax and maybe a few others, yes. Adlake made switch lamps, of course. Along with window shades, sun visors and door and window hardware.

Cheers, Ed

 

https://www.wabtec.com/uploads/outlinedrawings/Switch-Stands-Section.pdf

 

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:01 AM

gmpullman

I don't recall that Adlake (AKA Adams & Westlake Company) ever made any type of switchstand.

Racor, Wabtec, Buda, Ajax and maybe a few others, yes. Adlake made switch lamps, of course. Along with window shades, sun visors and door and window hardware.

Cheers, Ed

 

https://www.wabtec.com/uploads/outlinedrawings/Switch-Stands-Section.pdf

 

 

Think you are right, this one is lighted. Kind of thing this was done buy someone with a need and they used incorrect words. But it is a first of its kind avalible comerially.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:03 AM

Bayfield Transfer Railway

The Rapido switchstand is available separately, and they come with the cam so you can drive them off the throwbar.

The Central Valley switchstand does too.

 

 

No, what I want is a ground thow that dosn't look like the oversized Caboose ones I used last, way oversized.

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Posted by 7j43k on Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:54 PM

rrebell

 

 
7j43k

 

 
rrebell

I have just seen offered an O scale Adlake working ground throw (he calls it a switch stand, guess real railroads do that) and it is lighted too. Wonder in this age of 3D printing in metal if an HO scale one can be made?

 

 

 

 

I suspect you'll break a real scale working ground throw with you big gigantasorus fingers.

Why not use these, and keep your fingers to yourself:

 

https://rapidotrains.com/railcrew-switch-stand/

 

They look kinda neat.

 

 

 

Ed

 

 

 

These don't work without a switch machine

 

 

 

True.  But you didn't say you wanted your ground throws to be only activated by the hand of "the big guy".  You will note that Rapido DOES sell a working ground throw, which is what you asked for.

 

But if you want it to be a "do it yourself" kind of thing, have you tried the N scale Caboose ground throws.  I hear some people use those, though I haven't.

 

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:00 PM

I don't know what you mean by working, but working generally means fuctioning, not imatating.

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Posted by 7j43k on Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:29 PM

rrebell

I don't know what you mean by working, but working generally means fuctioning, not imatating.

 

 

Good point.  I guess I'm kind of stuck on how HO imitates the prototype, in that it doesn't really function as a real railroad.

 

So, didya try the N scale ground throws?

 

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Posted by zstripe on Thursday, February 22, 2018 7:00 PM

I've been using N-scale #206s Caboose ground throws instead of HO-scale ones since the 80's and have not had any problems' with them. Controlling 18 Atlas customline #4 turnouts, all others are machine controlled. In the photo, the one on the left controls that turnout, the second one controls the turnout in the street by linkage in a brass tube buried in the street/ground....works like a charm. They are still some what oversize, but beat the beastly looking HO scale ones.

If You click on the photo it will be just about exact scale size, the track and ground throw.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, February 22, 2018 7:39 PM

They don't have enough throw for Shinohara code 70's.

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Posted by zstripe on Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:06 PM

rrebell

They don't have enough throw for Shinohara code 70's.

 

Did You try it?  I heard they would not work on the turnouts I used them on also.....but they forgot to tell the turnouts...LOL Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:41 PM

zstripe

 

 
rrebell

They don't have enough throw for Shinohara code 70's.

 

 

 

Did You try it?  I heard they would not work on the turnouts I used them on also.....but they forgot to tell the turnouts...LOL Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by joe323 on Friday, February 23, 2018 6:45 AM

I will stick with my oversize HO throws at least they help me me with my poor coordination.

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, February 24, 2018 10:12 AM

Yes, I get that but with everything I have being scale or semi scale (grab irons are still to thick on most of my stuff though I have some that are scale), I need to upgrade the last item that is grossly over sized and toy like.

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Posted by Rapido on Sunday, February 25, 2018 3:56 PM

rrebell

 

These don't work without a switch machine

 

But you can get them with the switch machine to go underneath... Wink

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, February 25, 2018 4:00 PM

Yes, but I don't want switch maschines, at all. I like the feel of manual moving of the points.

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