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Portable Layout Building Log
Posted by vsmith on Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:24 AM

With the larger layouts temporarily on hiatus, I am planning to keep my skills going on the workbench with a little something I'm hoping to make as a portable display layout

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/vsmith/Large%20Scale%20Pizza%20layout_BTS_2008.pdf

A 3'-0" square "micro" layout, a pizza layout by definition, utilizing the old xmas tree base layout I've had for a couple years now. The old plywood base with its hand bent rail will become the portable Borracho RR display, with handlayed track, blue foam "mountains" and a small town of very small, detailed structures climbing the hill over the track. It will have detachable legs and felt pads so it can either be freestanding or set on a tabletop. It will be based on a very small HOn30 micro-layout I built a while ago.

If it comes out like I hope it should be a nice draw where ever its set up...progress pics when I can Big Smile

Some current pics

Overall view, ties are 3/8 x 1/4 basswood cut down, to be stained after placement. the tunnel portals are from the indoor layout.

Close up of track and ties, I'll be using Micro Engineering 3/8" spikes and I will spike every tie, I have an Aristo track gauge and will use the max gauge setting as the ultra tight curve tends to need additional wiggle room for the wheels. Nothing is glued down except the corkbed; I'll begin gluing down the ties tonight.

I have blue foam for my "mountain" and the portals need some reworking, but first comes track laying!Big Smile

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 15, 2007 12:53 AM
I can say you never let anything slow you down!
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Posted by John Busby on Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:58 PM

Hi Vic

Any chance of a rough sketch of the odd shaped building in the corner next to the caboose

in roughly "G".

I have a sheet of foam core board cluttering up the place.

that looks ideal for an indoor foam core project just the sort of thing small interesting to look at.

Now you have mentioned the christmas tree bases do know if they are till available and from where G of course.

Seeing your tunnel mouths will have to find the GR article on making them and the tell tail did you use coffee stirrers for the boards.

regards John

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, June 18, 2007 10:52 AM

John all the buildings are modified HO Woodland Scenics white metal building kits, that building you questioned is cobbled together from different parts left over from the original layout. There no real plan, I'll try to sketch something for it.

The "x-mas tree base" was something I made from spare plywood and some 1x2s, and the track was hand bent down to the 36" radius using an el-cheepo home-made track bender from a back issue of GR a few years ago. Can't remember what issue it was in.

And yes, the portals used popscycle sticks...although I'm going to have to use a bit of modeling putty to fill gaps when I rebend them down to fit this new layout and then repaint them.

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, June 18, 2007 10:55 AM

All the ties are glued down and begun spiking outer rail down, its the guide rail, and the inner rail will be gauged off it once its down tightly. Spikes are Micro Engineering medium 3/8" long, and they go down very nicely. Pics to follow.

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Posted by GearDrivenSteam on Monday, June 18, 2007 10:57 AM
No matter where you put it Vic, it looks real good.
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Posted by bman36 on Monday, June 18, 2007 2:07 PM

Hey Vic,

As usual...another cool project from Smoggy L.A. ! I love seeing the pics of course. Hand laid track...I'm impressed...haven't tried that one myself. A layout that size would be a cool display no matter where you set up. Keep it up pal. Later eh...Brian.

 

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Posted by MTCarpenter on Monday, June 18, 2007 2:58 PM
Very, very cool!!  Love it.
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Posted by altterrain on Monday, June 18, 2007 8:18 PM

Its the smallest big railroad around! Ain't it cute? Wink [;)]

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:16 AM

Well I found that spiking a curve is a tricky business, just because it was in guage when you spiked down a rail at ties #R, S, & T doesnt mean the rails at ties #R, S, & T will STAY in guage when you spike down the rail at ties #X Y & Z.

Had to respike two short sections when the track guage pulled apart to create too wide a gauge in the track. Hopefully thats done now and I can finish up the track laying tonight.

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Posted by vsmith on Sunday, June 24, 2007 1:13 AM

Progress pics:

Track under testing:

Ties stained:


Big Smile

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 24, 2007 2:26 AM
Congrats Vic! And I feel you have something else up your sleve.
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, April 21, 2008 10:39 AM

Well lets see, its been about a year, maybe I should try to finish this stupid thing BEFORE this years BTS.  I work better under pressure anyways...

I started building up the blue foam "hills" last week, getting near the top now, be ready to start carving the foam into rocks pretty quick here, lets see...

...I got 47 days to go!

 

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, April 21, 2008 10:07 PM

Progress pics:


Starting with the foam

backside view

foam topped off

Now gotta wait for the glue to dry, then I can start shaping.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:17 AM

Vic, thought you already had finished it, guess I am seeing doubbles....Black Eye [B)] And if your going to call it "a stupid thing" you can send it all to me! Engine and rolling stock too, you can have caboose. Whistling [:-^] I think my mom would like it much. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:45 AM

I have to finish the darn thing first ya know...

Scenery like this has never been a strong point for me, I'm a styrene butcher by trade. Blue foam is brand new to me, but if it works well I'm doing the indoor layout with it. Very light stuff, perfect for this type of layout

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Posted by SNOWSHOE on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:24 AM

Really cool.  Would be perfect to have on a a deck or porch.  You can sit outside and relaxe.  As soon as I get my outdoor layout set I am thinking about a small indoor set.  You might have started something. 

You have all these indoor layouts so Whens the outdoor layout coming????Big Smile [:D]

Someone mentioned Garden RR had an article about building tunnel mouths.  Does anyone have that link.  I have to build some on my RR and not sure how to go about this. 

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Posted by hoofe116 on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:52 PM

Vic:

Your pixes and info are very much appreciated. I never thought of the problem of laying curved track and keeping it 'in gauge'. It's little tidbits like that that are very welcome to me.

Why couldn't one 'notch out' several pieces of say, 3/8 x 3/8" wood as 'keepers'? The notches would be just the width of the rails (light press fit) and would lay over them as the gauging and nailing went on ahead. It seems like it'd help relieve the stress on the rail as it was spiked further up by distributing it across both rails. When they were pulled off, if one  or two 'hung', it'd alert one to an area of possible problem. Or perhaps I'm drinking from a bad batch?

Two steps closer to benchwork up: old drafting table in trash and reject kitchen table cut to stock size and put aside to await The Day. (The day I can start building benchwork).

Very much appreciate the pixes and tips.

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:29 PM

One evenings carving, not bad, starting to look like southwestern sandstone:)


Still need to sand some of the rough spots down and carve the back side a bit but this was very very fast!

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:31 PM
 hoofe116 wrote:

Vic:

Your pixes and info are very much appreciated. I never thought of the problem of laying curved track and keeping it 'in gauge'. It's little tidbits like that that are very welcome to me.

Why couldn't one 'notch out' several pieces of say, 3/8 x 3/8" wood as 'keepers'? The notches would be just the width of the rails (light press fit) and would lay over them as the gauging and nailing went on ahead. It seems like it'd help relieve the stress on the rail as it was spiked further up by distributing it across both rails. When they were pulled off, if one  or two 'hung', it'd alert one to an area of possible problem. Or perhaps I'm drinking from a bad batch?

Two steps closer to benchwork up: old drafting table in trash and reject kitchen table cut to stock size and put aside to await The Day. (The day I can start building benchwork).

Very much appreciate the pixes and tips.

Les W.

What you say could work, what I did was to spike down the outer rail, then using the gauge spike down the inner rail. I did this cause I figured the inner rail would be easier to adjust or trim off excess rail if needed.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:17 PM

Vic, looking good man!!!

You going to hand brush or air brush it? (color) What is the foam stuck with liquide nails?

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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:36 AM

Just standard latex house paint with a brush and ground cover added while its still wet. Its called "Zip Texturing" in HO I beleive.

I used standard carpenters glue to glue the stuff together, cheaper than Liquid Nails but I have to wait a day for it to dry, but what the heck, if I glue it down the night before by the time I get back out there the next night its dry.

PS I watched this on Youtube very helpfull.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D1D4KBB_GC4&feature=related

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:29 PM

Thanks Vic! He sounds like the Dark Knight at first Smile [:)]

Had to keep him in my fav's folder.

Guess I will have to look through u-tube more for good stuff like this! You think they have some on fireworks Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by vsmith on Saturday, April 26, 2008 5:45 PM
Progress:

the buildings on top are just there for ideas, I'm still deciding what I want to do there. The Piko buildings may be OK but the HofB hotel looms a little large, I really want to build a series of very narrow buildngs winding there way up the hill, so these would only be temporary anyway. Even the station would eventually be replaced. But I only have a little over one month to get this ready.

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Posted by hoofe116 on Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:24 PM
 vsmith wrote:
 hoofe116 wrote:

What you say could work, what I did was to spike down the outer rail, then using the gauge spike down the inner rail. I did this cause I figured the inner rail would be easier to adjust or trim off excess rail if needed.

I'll be building strap-iron on wood (actually copper strips) rails. I'm going to try using cut-to-scale furring strips, boiling and forming and letting 'em dry and 'take a set' before putting them down. I have some suspicion the furring stripwood rails might 'writhe', even w. glue and nails at every tie. They may not: I'll coat 'em with linseed oil right after I figure the glue's dry, it might help. The copper strips will go on next, soldered and spiked.

That's where the idea of removable 'keepers' came to me, as a way to hold things in place for a bit but be easy to remove.

Keep posting the good stuff.

Saw your railbus--wish I wasn't in the pre-IC era!

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, April 28, 2008 10:38 PM

Small test area for scenery, Woodland Scenics stuff, guess it works for large scale, no ballast yet, gotta get some stuff without the blue "ore" in it.

Photo came out too bright, it doesnt look this washed out in person

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Posted by Benjamin Maggi on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:10 AM

What about something besides a town up top. You could add a little ho track and have it go off the side, and model that to a "mine dump" scene where the HO cars are unloaded on the top of the mountain, then the ore is brought down by wheelbarrow or donkey-carts to the large scale trains at the bottom of the hill?

Or, why not model a piazza up top (an open area in a city) and presume that the buildings are all "out of sight." You could have lots of vendors with carts of fruits and vegetables and wares... all brought up to the town by the little road from the train looping below. A sort of "piazza pizza." (My own little play on words)

Or, what about a desert scene with a bunch of people surrounding a camp fire (you could incorporate lighting and smoke effects) and maybe some cattle, and maybe a wagon or tent or throw-together shack. The cattle could graze up top and then be brought down the mountain to be loaded into the train for shipment to the city.

Just ideas, but none of them would require extensive buildings to be constructed.

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:55 AM
All good ideas, I just dont think I have the time to do if I want to finish this by June 5.

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Posted by hoofe116 on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:39 PM

Vic,

Why are the ties so far apart? All I have for a frame of reference is the plastic track I've picked up, but even as a kid walking the MOPAC tracks, the ties were less than a normal stride apart.

Could it be because you're in a hurry to finish? And, it doesn't matter at all to me if you have just 3 per section, ala Lionel 027. I'm curious, is what I am.

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:51 PM

Cheap, is what I am.

Bought the basswood stock , thought I had enough, cut it down and was short, it was late, on a weekend and I didnt want to wait to get more, so I just spread'em a little wider...

Its not unprototypical for poor tram lines, besides you should see in the back, theres a reason theres a tunnel, hides where I ran out of full ties and had to use sections!

A tad more progress

I added highlight colors to the bluffs on the layout above. Going to go with 3 facades at the top with the watertank as shown, and the "house of relief" next to the water tank (eeewww!)   Surprise

Got a bag of "Ballast" in the pet aisle of the local Theftway.... dam stuff has pink "scent control crystals" in it, another had blue ones, geez well at least pink looks more southwesterny than blue.  Grumpy

I think if I had one full day I could finish this, fat chance I'll have that kind of free time  Whistling

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