My improved #1 Walter E. Disney

[REI]

I'm sure it's not even enough.

[Rastun]

Do you know how much voltage it takes to make the smoke unit work?

Once you find that out it will help you determine if your batteries have enough voltage to even run the smoke unit.

Jack 

[REI]

I tried it and failed, it didn't smoke anything with the MTH smoke unit, though I tried it with an engine that never had a smoke unit before.......

[REI]

Well, I was planning to open up my defunct MTH locomotive and take off the entire smoke unit, take it to my New Bright loco  fit in the unit, and solder the wires to the correct contacts. Now, I don't know if it will start smoking once I turn on that switch, since it isn't a New Bright smoke unit which is the one that it was made with and had previously. That's why I've earned up some money to by a New Bright parts loco that contains the unit.

[Cheese]

Hmmm,

Well, I said I might, which means I don;t have a clue how. But then again, I plan to convert my scientific to electriciy, so it should not be that much of a problem.

I don't know if you could, but you could rig something like a large battery to power the unit or something like that and maybe it will work.

I'd ask someone else, because I am as green as anybody on this.

Cheese

[REI]

Oh, that's right, now I remember cause I have an MTH myself which I don't use anymore cause it's broken. One question, Cheese, do you think I could install my MTH smoke unit to my New Bright engine machinery? I know I asked you before but since you're saying you were going to install it to your Scientific, I might attempt it.

[Cheese]

Yes,

If you have ever seen an MTH O gauge locomotive, thats a fan drievn unit. It makes lots of smoke.

Cheese

[Rastun]

The Bachmann Big Hauler smoke unit is Not a fan driven smoke unit.

It's just a container with a heating coil in it.

Jack 

[REI]

I was going to say just that, you can't use the Scientific smoke unit with a cap stack cause it's to long and bulky for it. If you use a large, ballon stack, like I did with my Walter, then you can use the Scientific smoke unit. The fan-driven smoke unit is the one that the Bachmann Big Haulers use, right?

[Cheese]

Yes,

You are either physic or have the same brain as me, because I was going to use a cap stack.

I planned to run it as a eastern coal burner. But, I might make it a western oil burner, or and easter oil burner. LOL. Thats what I love about this hobby. You can do pretty much anything you please.

I'm not sure. I might go with my own version of the Southern Railroads freight scheme (I would add a red cab roof), or I might do a scheme similar to the White Pass and Yukon's #69 (My favorite narrow gauge road).

Yes it has smoke, but I am going to tear it out. I plan on putting an LGB mogul block, or maybe a Barry Bachmann 4-6-0 mechanism under it. Whichever I decide on it will look good. I plan on giving it a fan driven smoke unit (even though I am not a big fan of smoke units) if I can find one.

Cheese

[REI]

Yes, each engine has a train set to her own though they are sometimes switched with the engines. I know you're not going to do the project now but if you want to use a straight stack, I would suggest a capstack (New Bright made them with some of their sets). They are beautiful with a shining brass finish at the top they're the epitome of east coast coal burning Victorian trains. I think your Scientific engine would be nice as an east coast coal burning Victorian engine since they already bring the coal load in the tender and the locomotive is made with an extended smokebox (perfect for straight or capstacks). What paint scheme do you plan to use? Does your Scientific have the smoke feature?

[Cheese]

Well,

She dosen't have a name. I might give her one though, as its a good idea. I'd like to re-paint the engine and add detail to her. Cab detail is a big thing too. Oh, and a new stack is definatly in the picture. Maybe a straight one as the boiler is too high and large for a diamond stack (well for my taste anyway).

If I may suggest something. You might want to re-paint the cab roof. Maybe some paint inside of the cab would look nice too. Some external paint might do it well to.

I don't plan to start the project right away, but when I do I'll e-mail you and we'll coverse with e-mails, as it will be easier to send pictures.

Now, you since there are different coaches, are there other engines for them? Its been a while since I've been to Disney, but I know there are 2 4-6-0's, a Mogul (My Favorite), and the 4-4-0.

Cheese

 

[REI]

I bought her December 2005. Thanks for letting me know about the track but I just built my layout and just barely made it with the straight track! There were more sets made indeed, The first battery operated G-scale train set that Disney manufactured was in 1988, thats absolete and you might find one occasionally on e-bay. And I think they are still selling the current Scientific Toys train set which they've been selling since1998. As for the cars,they represent the four sets of rollingstock for each of the four locomotives they use at the park, the red 100 series coaches, green 200 series coaches, yellow 300 series coaches, and the blue 400 series coaches. I would really enjoy helping you with your Scientific engine project. Why don't you post some pictures? What's her name and what do you want to do with her?

[Cheese]

Nice,

Hey, if you are looking to get more New Bright Track, I was just on e-bay and saw a lot of it with the current bid price around $18 or something.

When did you buy this engine?And are there more Disney sets, because in the other topic you posted I saw what looked like Disney Cars in different colors, blue, rewd, yellow, and green. More info on this would be nice.

I am planning on mofiying my Scientific Mogul. A new stack is definatly in the question, as well as new figures and cab detail, and maybe a new coat of paint.

Cheese

[REI]

Thank You. I bought her at Downtown Disney and I've been modifying her since April this is how she looks as of now:

[Cheese]

Nice,

I remeber seeing a set like this in Disney world years and years ago in the stores. I begged my parents to buy it, but they said I didn't need it.

Where did you get yours?

Oh, BTW, put an LGB Mogul Block under it and you'll be set. LOL.

Cheese

[REI]

1. The smoke stack was modified into a diamond ballon stack.

2. a net made out of chicken wire was added to the interior of the stack.

3. class lamps were added to the sides of the smoke box.

4. a Bachmann brake pump was added.

5. Bachmann gauges were added to the back head inside the cab.

6. all loco wheels were re-painted into a different scheme.

I tried to convert her into a 4-6-0 ten-wheeler but I gave up trying so she stayed as a 2-6-0 mogul. I believe the frame is just not made to hold a second pair of pilot wheels but  I'm still  not sure. I believe all these improvements make her look a lot more realistic and more like the real Walter at Disney World.

[Rastun]

All I notice is the stack also.

I'm not at all familiar with these engines, so it wold be very hard for me to notice anything unless it was a huge difference. The things I did notice about them while looking at the pictures would drive me nuts and if I ever had one you probably wouldn't recognize it for long.

I'm glad you've found these little engines and like them. As long as they give you enjoyment they are worth what ever you do to them.

Jack 

[vsmith]

Nope, I give up...

...aside from the stack modification it still looks like a typical Scientific. Beside the list of recommended improvements on these would be so long as the need its own forum!

The single best improvement you can do to these is open them up and add self adhesive tire weights to the underside of the boiler so they pull better.

The single best use I have found for them is to cannibalis them for parts and reuse them on my kitbashing projects. For that they are excellent!

[REI]

Before:

As of May:

Now here's where it gets interesting, who can point out the six improvements she's taken on hhmm????