Inch scale, considered garden?

[Neiler]

I've found myself building larger and larger. Some of my models, like others, are using G guage track to represent 2' so the scale turns out to be 7/8". That is why I was so interested to read about your 1" scale. Generally, most 1" scale modelers use 4" to 5" guage as standard 4'-8 1/2". That's close enough for me to have an interchange! But if I use 1 1/2" scale for 3' proto .... hmmm.

[tsgtbob]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Neiler

Well I'm still excited, not edited, at the prospect of 1" scale. If it runs in the garden that's enough for me. (...also green with envy)
How much area do you have for track and what would be your radius?

I have 2 acres, the R.O.W. will be in the back half of my property, call it a 50 foot, by 250 foot area (what is that in metric? 15 mtr X 80 mtr?)
I also have access to a woods behind my house, my neighbor is excited about the prospect of having a track joining our houses, so, there may be an expansion.
I don't plan on riding the trains, plans are for radio control, or, walk beside control.
As for the civil engineering aspect, I have designed the locomotive to use a 20 foot radius, so that will be the standard.
Oh, yeah, this will not be a rivet counter's piece! As long as the outline is "kinda" close, that will be "good Enough!"

[walterwhiting]

My "Garden Railroad" is 3" scale, 15" gauge. If YOU consider YOUR railroad to be a "Garden Railroad", then it is a "Garden Railroad". Don't listen to people who say it isn't. There are way too many out there who think if it wasn't done or isn't the way I would do it, so it isn't real. The only person that matters is you.
If you do a google search for 1" scale model railroads, you will find more info than you can process.
Enjoy your Garden Railroad and post some pics so we may enjoy it also. Good Luck
walterwhiting

[Neiler]

Well I'm still excited, not edited, at the prospect of 1" scale. If it runs in the garden that's enough for me. (...also green with envy)
How much area do you have for track and what would be your radius?

[tsgtbob]

Well, seeing as how its spring here on the top 1/2 of the world, summer means outside trains. I had a run of bad luck with G outside, and always wanted "large scale" outside only stuff.
I tested one of my trucks, and the frame is about half welded. This is nowhere near a done project, hey, I'll be lucky to get both trucks on a frame this decade!
I was just curoius if there were any BIG train folks in here.
I have worked on my Club's MRRCo G-12, so I have somewhat of a feeling for what's involved.
I'll post up pics in few weeks of the project.

[DannyS]

Ian,I do not know where you got the information that the Australian Metric Police will arrest you if you talk Imperial measurements. Being in Hardware, almost half of all Tape Measures sold are Metric/Imperial units.
Regards, Danny Sheehan in Oz.

[Neiler]

I got all edited hoping the engine would be a model of about 18" gauge on 45mm track! Oh well.

[Tom The Brat]

I designed one in 1:6 to build with my boys. Switched to G when I found myself in the asylum[8]

[John Busby]

Hi FG& J
I would say you got it in one.
tsgbob is working on the smallest of the ride on trains.
would still be nice to see what he is up to.
After I have taken that Mylanta Bob sugested[:D]
regards John

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by iandor

There are no stupid questions; only ignorant by-standers.

I cannot discuss this 1" business this is a metric country and we are not allowed to have non metric conversations nor are we allowed to make non metric statements.

ie; give him a centimetre and he'll take a kilometre just doesn't sound the same.


Rgds ian

You could call it 1:12 scale and be done.[^][^][:)][:)]

[Marty Cozad]

Bob
Back to your question, I'd say NO. ride on trains is a whole different aspect and thinking to the hobby.
I looked into it before "G". but found I could do more with G in the modern mainline types than in 1".
I have been into G for 14 yrs and no problems with the concrete roadbed.
The last thought around here there is even fewer folks who ride on than g.
gets kinda lonely arund these parts[;)]

[tsgtbob]

Thanks everyone, the info was, as ususal for these forums great.

QUOTE: I hope you will excuse me while I just go and turn green with envy

Sorry!
Mylanta works for that![:p]
I have had this in mind since I was 10 years old, and I have been collecting the parts for the locomotive for the past 5 years or so.
It won't be an exact "rivet counter" style model, but more of an outline of something that looks like a locomotive. I have fabricated the trucks, using high torque motors to each wheelset, sideframes are 1 inch square tubing, ball bearing blocks bolted to this for the wheel supports, bolster is a fabricated piece of 1X2 steel etc...
Get the idea?
I had tried G gauge in the backyard a few years ago, freeze and heave did nasty stuff to my roadbed, and The Better 9/10s wanted more of "her" patio for flowers (yeucccccch)

[Tom The Brat]

If it goes on rails it suits the forum, though most of us build for 45mm gauge.

[FJ and G]

QUOTE: Originally posted by John Busby

Hi tsgt Bob
The size of train you are working on means you have entered the
Model Engineering Zone [:D]
Not realy the right forum for that,
[swg]
regards John

What gauge or scale is considered "garden" for this forum. My guess is everything run in the garden from small gauge/scale up to but not including small trains people ride on. Would that be close to correct?

[John Busby]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cabbage

regards

ralph

PS Surgury on the Giraffe went well. I am building a replica of Hornby R348 -but in 16mm scale. Hence the need for the Giraffe head.

Hi ralph
I used to have the Triang one
details details pictures on the scratch build forun please
regards John

[cabbage]

It is generally accepted that the peak district begins at Derby and extends between Manchester and Sheffield. It is some of the most beautiful and deadly countryside in England...

Have a look: http://www.visitpeakdistrict.com/

regards

ralph

PS Surgury on the Giraffe went well. I am building a replica of Hornby R348 -but in 16mm scale. Hence the need for the Giraffe head.

[Anonymous]

What about a stitch in time saves ten, thats metric for sure.

I hope your giraffe stands still long enough for you.

Where is the Peak district, i have been to the UK recently and i have been pretty well all over!

Rgds ian

[Anonymous]

What about a stitch in time saves ten, thats metric for sure.

I hope your giraffe stands still long enough for you.

Where is the Peak district, i have been to the UK recently and i have been pretty well all over!

Rgds ian

[cabbage]

Thomas the phrase should read: "in for a (pre-decimalisation denaria equivalent) in for a (pre Wilson devaluation (this will not affect the pound in your pocket) pound (sterling))"

Alternatively: in for a (sanitry tax coin) in for a 1/2240th of an imperial ton...

Excuse me -my son wants to know when I am going to saw the head off the Giraffe!!!

regards

ralph

[Tom The Brat]

Dangerous contraband there

[Anonymous]

Torby mate;

I guess i can talk fractions but no one seems to do it any more; you want dob me in to the Australian Metrification Board will you?


Rgds Ian

Did you know for a long time after metrification; people used to illegally import imperial rulers from New Zealand; but they stopped that New Zealand went metric as well and where they go the rulers from i do not know.

That bit about about sayings what about in for a cent in for a dollar or even 450 grams.

[Tom The Brat]

Sounds cool.

I don't know of anybody else doing 1/12 (Ian, you can still talk fractions down under without breaking any laws[:-,]) 1/8 scale, 1 1/2 is a popular scale. Long ago I designed a railroad at 2 inch to the foot, but never got to build it.

For your track, do a google search for "Groovy track."

[John Busby]

Hi tsgt Bob
The size of train you are working on means you have entered the
Model Engineering Zone [:D]
Not realy the right forum for that, however some one makes rail and fish plates for that size and probably does dog spikes as well
probably riding rail kits as Ray sugests
As an alternative you could use flat bar (No idea of what would be an apropriate size) welded to steel tie plates to form what looks like track with very thin and small sleepers.
Which is then screwed to wooden (Or plastic/concrete) sleepers with a screw each end of the tie plate.
But you would need a jig made so you could make reasonable lengths at a time say the std purchase length of the flat bar used for the rail
The jig should be made so it can make straight and curved track also with a change of bits make points and crossings.
all to the same stds every time if the jig is made properly and might be cheaper in the long run than comercialy made track componants.
Good luck in your venture.
I hope you will excuse me while I just go and turn green with envy[swg]
regards John

[Train 284]

Like Ray said, check out that site, everything for 1" scale! Also, Talk to my good friend Greg Robinson, editor of the Grand Scales Quarterly and the 7+ Railroader. His e-mail is [e-mail]

[Ray Dunakin]

So far, I haven't heard of anyone here doing 1" scale. There is a company that sells track and equipment for that scale, Riding Railkits (www.ridingrailkits.com). They might be able to help you out.

[Anonymous]

There are no stupid questions; only ignorant by-standers.

I cannot discuss this 1" business this is a metric country and we are not allowed to have non metric conversations nor are we allowed to make non metric statements.

ie; give him a centimetre and he'll take a kilometre just doesn't sound the same.


Rgds ian

[tsgtbob]

Ok, I may be in the wrong forum here, but here goes[:o)]
I am in the process of building a inch scale GP-40 (ish) battery powered, with a potential of being the beginning of an outdoor empire.
Here's my stupid (possably newbie to outdoor) question.
Are there any inch scalers in here?
What hazards are there for battery operation (four motors, in the trucks, chain drive to the wheels)?
Is there rail available, or do I need to fabricate my own? (I'm considering using inverted T steel stock, bolted to 2x4 pressure treated lumber, or possably that recycled "milk jug" Trex trade name stuff)
Any input would be apperciated.