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Scale Preference
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:45 PM
I am doing some independent research for my local club and would appreciate the feed back.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:50 PM
I model in N,OO,HO and G'ish.
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:21 PM
N, HO, HOm and 2m on the hobby side.

Z, N, HO, S, O, 1 and 2 on the business side.

Rail profiles from Code40 through (if they really want it!) Code332. Track gauges: whatever.
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Posted by vsmith on Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:24 PM
Well Mr Redneck, can I call you Red?

Only listing G in largescale shows a fundimental misunderstanding of just what scales constitute Large Scale....

now if we just stick to whatever runs on45mm track.

G= 1/22.5 scale, LGB meter gauge = 45mm track
Fn3= 1/20.3 scale, 36" gauge = 45mm track
A= 1/29 scale, not true to scale as track is 4'3" not 4'-8 1/2" in 45mm track
1= 1/32 scale, true to scale for 4'-8 1/2" = 45mm track
also
16mm=1'0" Briti***o represent 2' gauge or 600mm on 45mm track
7/8" = 1'0" American to represent 2' gauge or 600mm on 45mm track

there also
Gn24, 1/22.5 scale using O gauge track for 2' gauge and
Gn15, 1//22.5 scale using HO gauge track for 15" gauge track

Now F scale is starting to become known, its 1/20.3 scale operating on 63mm track for standard gauge

and I'm sure I missed a few...

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:36 PM
I do have a pretty good understanding of the different scales available in G scale, however I didn't have enough individual options available to list each specific scale.
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Posted by vsmith on Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:06 PM
It would make for quite the long Poll wouldnt it.

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Posted by cacole on Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:19 PM
I have G scale in my back yard, and am a member of a local HO scale club with a large layout. I started in HO many moons ago and have much more of it than G.
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Posted by Tom The Brat on Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:57 PM
Just G gauge here!
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Posted by tangerine-jack on Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:00 PM
I voted other because we don't know just what the crap "G" scale means, not that I care anyway. I make up my own scale and run it on commercialy available track. Hey, if I like it, I'll buy it![:D]


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Posted by Train 284 on Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:21 PM
I do N, HO, G (narrow gauge), 7.5" gauge and 15" gauge.
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Posted by twcenterprises on Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:02 PM
Just HO and large scale (#1 track) for me. In large scale I run Bachmann, Aristo and USA trains (not usually at the same time), but build the track and structures to 1/24 scale. Makes for a happy medium between the proportions, and scratchbuilding is easier (I just think to myself 1/2" to the foot).

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:14 PM
For the inth time, I am well aware of the fact that there are more than on scale proportion, and that each manufacturer makes trains of various scales different from another in most cases as far as scale proportion is concerned.
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Posted by SteelMonsters on Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:21 PM
I've spent most my time in HO scale. I am getting into 7.25" gauge (1/8th scale)
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by RR Redneck

For the inth time, I am well aware of the fact that there are more than on scale proportion, and that each manufacturer makes trains of various scales different from another in most cases as far as scale proportion is concerned.


Red,

Don't get upset, this scale thing is really quite interesting.

For instance in my case it is 1:22.5 aka IIm (Roman numeral 2, m for Meter gauge) and hard to believe 45mm track gauge is pretty close to what it should be. There is also standard gauge modeled in 1:22.5, the track is gauged at 64mm.

You see for some "strange reason" the Europeans (not including the Brits, they are a different tribe) decided that an orderly progressing of scales would be a beauty. There are exceptions to the rule like 1:87 (HO) which is that 3.5mm/12" melange. But basically it is still close when you start at the large end

II = 1:22.5
I = 1:32
0 = 1:45 (half the size of II)
S = 1:64 (half the size of I)
HO = 1:87 ( well if it would have been 1:90 it would have been half of O and the track gauge would have been an even 16mm. Thanks to the Brits it was not to be!)
TT = 1:120 (this is odd, even odder since it originated in the USA and certainly doesn't fit into the inch system unless you consider 1/10" = 12" to be logical. Not as a rule, since the fractions progress on a different scheme)
N = 1:160 (similar to the above)
Z = 1:220 (ditto)

Since I started in IIm I'm happy that at least at the upper end of the scale relation there is some logic to things (Thank you NEM-MOROP and good old Märklin!). The lower end is just a "this sounds pretty good" jumble.

Of course if you look at the NMRA designations they are a happy continuance of the lower end errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I mean to say perfectly logical if you would say that a 6.3mm thread is a good candidate for a proposed ISO item. [:D][:D][:D][}:)][}:)][:D][:D] If there is any doubt just do the math with the scale ratios gauge thingy and you'll be wise.

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Posted by grandpopswalt on Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:25 PM
Fn3 (1:20.3) scale. Previous to that, I modeled in 1:24 scale (1/2" = 1').

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Posted by TonyWalsham on Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:47 PM
The question was which scale do I model.

Narrow gauge is not a scale.

I do model in 7/8n2.

Best wishes,

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Posted by kstrong on Friday, November 11, 2005 12:48 AM
I clicked "G" for "Generic" large scale, since it's the only choice "close" to what we run in the garden. Personally, I do Fn3 only. I've got too many projects in this scale alone to even consider another scale.

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Posted by cabbage on Friday, November 11, 2005 4:15 AM
Dear Mr Smith....

As I am a 16mm scale modeller using 2 feet narrow gauge prototypes would you like to check your definitions????

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16mm=1'0" Briti***o represent 2' gauge or 600mm on 45mm track
unquote

Most of my fellow club members us 32mm track. Although I would be the first to admit 16mm on 45mm track does exist -but is very rare.

There is one madman (and close personal friend) who models 16mm on 115mm track -emulating Brunels broad gauge. If I can find a garden large enough at my new home I will probably follow suit!

Having trawled through the very useless NMRA specs I find it hard to believe that a scale that has over 3500 members to '16mmngm' , its official organisation, is not even mentioned by them...

16mm is the de facto scratch builders scale. There is very little around commercially -unless you wi***o pay hundreds of pounds for it. This is what chiefly attracted me to this scale -the fact that I would have to build everything myself. This did not limit me to any manufacturer -suppliers yes, most parts are white metal castings done at the weekend as the customer requires.

Also this meant that I could have any locomotive that I liked the look off -I was not limited to any one area or time scale. I will be the first to admit that my upbringing in Rhodesia during the period of Sanctions has left the majority of my locos with a distinctly 'Colonial' feel. People have even commentted that all of my locos have a very 'British' feel about them.

My 'Shay' -which I am informed should be called a 'Yahs' has the things on it I would expect to find on a British loco -you can almost see 'Vulcan Iron works -Newton-le-Willows on it!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 12, 2005 5:25 PM
i can only just afford to run -g , theres no money left for anyother scale
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Posted by vsmith on Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cabbage

Dear Mr Smith....

As I am a 16mm scale modeller using 2 feet narrow gauge prototypes would you like to check your definitions????

quote
16mm=1'0" Briti***o represent 2' gauge or 600mm on 45mm track
unquote

Most of my fellow club members us 32mm track. Although I would be the first to admit 16mm on 45mm track does exist -but is very rare.

There is one madman (and close personal friend) who models 16mm on 115mm track -emulating Brunels broad gauge. If I can find a garden large enough at my new home I will probably follow suit!

Having trawled through the very useless NMRA specs I find it hard to believe that a scale that has over 3500 members to '16mmngm' , its official organisation, is not even mentioned by them...

16mm is the de facto scratch builders scale. There is very little around commercially -unless you wi***o pay hundreds of pounds for it. This is what chiefly attracted me to this scale -the fact that I would have to build everything myself. This did not limit me to any manufacturer -suppliers yes, most parts are white metal castings done at the weekend as the customer requires.

Also this meant that I could have any locomotive that I liked the look off -I was not limited to any one area or time scale. I will be the first to admit that my upbringing in Rhodesia during the period of Sanctions has left the majority of my locos with a distinctly 'Colonial' feel. People have even commentted that all of my locos have a very 'British' feel about them.

My 'Shay' -which I am informed should be called a 'Yahs' has the things on it I would expect to find on a British loco -you can almost see 'Vulcan Iron works -Newton-le-Willows on it!!!

regards

ralph

Oh if you don't believe there were any Shays in the UK there was one at Bilston Iron works in Staffordshire. My Yahs is based on the design for the Peru Sugar Works -a UK owned company...


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:51 AM
On30, G(eneric), 7 1/2", 2'. I couldn't give a toot if it's perfectly to scale, or is any scale at all. If I like it, I buy it ,and run it.

I have a Tardis setting on a hill that takes care of all that scale inconsistency howey.[:o)][:D]

People, trolls, elves, hobbits, and such different size creatures and critters, all require different sizes of locos and cars anyway, and my little fantasy world has them all![:D] So there...........[swg]
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Posted by tangerine-jack on Sunday, November 13, 2005 4:31 PM
"G" for Generic!!! YEssss!!!!!![:D][bow][bow][bow] That's me! Numbers give me a headache. Or maybe it's rocket exhaust???????

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:00 PM
Yeah!!...gotta watch out for that rocket exhaust giv'en ya a headache, them Dalaks will get the jump on ya if you ain't carefull....[;)]
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Posted by Greg Elmassian on Monday, November 14, 2005 12:38 AM
Z and G... no narrow gauge, all santa fe...

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