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MR Large Scale Article
Posted by Curmudgeon on Saturday, November 5, 2005 4:22 PM
I've been reading the series in MR on a large-scale railroad with amazement.
Very typical for what I remember last time I bought an MR, which was late 1975 or early 1976.
Here we have a mag that has been pushing scale fidelity for a LONG time (like, say, 70 years).

So, they choose 1:29.

What a load.

Now, they cant get the facts right either.
November 05 issue, page 79.
Figure one.

Those of you who know will see those are USA couplers.
Yet, they say Aristo in the caption AND in the write-up.
Plus, they're going to later convert to Kadees as "they have a more scale-like appearance".
Right.
Like that big spring on the side?
Or the dummy air hose that somehow miraculously hangs dead center?

Page 78 photo.
Whereinthehell did they get that Mustang?

Looks like it's sitting on a WWII Jeep chassis.
Ever seen a "realistic" Mustang that looks like that?

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Posted by RhB_HJ on Saturday, November 5, 2005 5:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Curmudgeon

I've been reading the series in MR on a large-scale railroad with amazement.
Very typical for what I remember last time I bought an MR, which was late 1975 or early 1976.
Here we have a mag that has been pushing scale fidelity for a LONG time (like, say, 70 years).

So, they choose 1:29.

What a load.

Now, they cant get the facts right either.
November 05 issue, page 79.
Figure one.

Those of you who know will see those are USA couplers.
Yet, they say Aristo in the caption AND in the write-up.
Plus, they're going to later convert to Kadees as "they have a more scale-like appearance".
Right.
Like that big spring on the side?
Or the dummy air hose that somehow miraculously hangs dead center?

Page 78 photo.
Whereinthehell did they get that Mustang?

Looks like it's sitting on a WWII Jeep chassis.
Ever seen a "realistic" Mustang that looks like that?

Lordhavemercy.

TOC


Oh, oh!

I bought the Aug MR - strictly curiosity, normally I get the copy from the library - and I was somewhat startled by Tony Koester's flippant attitude. Hmmmm I guess there is a large difference between H0 and Large Scale!

While large-scale is mentioned this seems to be a typical "G" write-up and when you look at it like that, it's "not too bad". And since he wasn't allowed to do NG and apparently doesn't think there's much in 1:32 - going by the "One gauge, many scales" sidebar - it was 1:29. But then I took the sidebar with a pinch of salt, since there were more "Scale related" curiosities.

What grates more are the explanations for the 1:29 and 1:27 "scales". I always thought that Tony does really good research, but perhaps that only applies to his H0 projects.

Well Dave to sum it up, perhaps you and me are just too critical of things.[;)][}:)][}:)][:)] It's either that or we need to get some blinders![;)][:p][:p][:D]

Of course there have been other comments regarding that layout, one was regarding the operating scheme. I'm surprised you didn't comment on that!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 5, 2005 5:29 PM
I thought the write up was great untill i read both your points, I liked large sale getting the exposure but trying to get scale purist involved in large scale from the smaller scales with 1:29 not being correct I see totally what you both are saying.

A feature of a 1:20.3 dual gauge layout of Iron creek shops new ties and llagas rail with scratch built 1:20.3 standard equipment and bachmann/AMS narrow gauge equipment would have been better[:p][:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 5, 2005 5:31 PM
I don't buy magazines, i get all i need at the doctors surgery a few times ayear. They are mainly rubbish.particularly to do with garden railways. However I do read text books on the subject whenever I can lay my hands on a new one.

That original one put out by Kalmbach is my bible and I lend it to every new person in Garden Railkways i come in contact with.

If you follow what jack Verducci says you will be well advised. Have a look at what he advises about tools and you can see the emphasis is on tools for outdoor work not indoor and workshop stuff as that is not what this hobby is all about!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 5, 2005 5:56 PM
"Well Dave to sum it up, perhaps you and me are just too critical of things"
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Yes, that does pretty well sum it up!
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Posted by Curmudgeon on Saturday, November 5, 2005 6:28 PM
Ian.
Yup.
Follow Jack's advice and you won't go wrong.
Live steam with ground-level layout, dig a trench so you can see to light them off.

Great advice.
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Saturday, November 5, 2005 7:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Allan Miller

"Well Dave to sum it up, perhaps you and me are just too critical of things"
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Yes, that does pretty well sum it up!


Allan,

You, the author, should know how to quote properly. You forgot all the smilies! [:0][:0]

Anyway, Dave and I may collaborate on the definitive book titled "How to run realistic Large Scale in the Garden while having a ball"

Of course there will be a chapter/guide on how to buy equipment that is not just pretty, but realistic. And another one on "Large Scale doesn't have to mean TOY".

[:)][:D][8D][8D]
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Saturday, November 5, 2005 7:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Curmudgeon

Ian.
Yup.
Follow Jack's advice and you won't go wrong.
Live steam with ground-level layout, dig a trench so you can see to light them off.

Great advice.


OOOOOOH, you didn't forget that either!?!
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Posted by Curmudgeon on Saturday, November 5, 2005 8:14 PM
Here's the deal, Allan.
I told you the article, the page numbers, the specifics (like "Figure One").
You go and look at it.
You tell me your issue says something different.
You think I made it up?
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Posted by Marty Cozad on Saturday, November 5, 2005 9:50 PM
Gumpy old men.

Is it REAL? or Just 1:29 scale?

Long live Outdoor Model Railroading.

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Posted by Curmudgeon on Saturday, November 5, 2005 9:57 PM
hehehehe


Just hope I don't fly into the side of my barn.
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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Sunday, November 6, 2005 8:12 AM
TOC,
Drivel or not, he's laughing all the way to the bank cause he got paid for the article! In some circles that would mean that he's smarter than we are!

Ain't it fun taking potshots just to see what kind of reaction you get?
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Posted by Curmudgeon on Sunday, November 6, 2005 3:56 PM
I have a whole ammuntion can of potshots waiting for the right time to hurl them....
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Sunday, November 6, 2005 5:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Curmudgeon

I have a whole ammuntion can of potshots waiting for the right time to hurl them....


Hey Dave,

I thought it was handgrenades that get hurled.[;)][:)][:D]

Which reminds me of a good one from my army days, but I better not.[}:)][:p][:D]
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Posted by Curmudgeon on Sunday, November 6, 2005 5:44 PM
Pot shots are different from lobs.
I also have a GI can full of lobs, but try not to use them as often, as they are not discriminating.
Whatreya, new?
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Sunday, November 6, 2005 6:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Curmudgeon

Pot shots are different from lobs.
I also have a GI can full of lobs, but try not to use them as often, as they are not discriminating.
Whatreya, new?


No, probably too old.

It's forty years since my Swiss Army days and I made sure that I would never get into the situation where I would have to learn the English equivalent of all "that good stuff". Once around was plenty for me!!

BTW I thought you didn't discriminate anyway?!? [:)][:)]
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Posted by Curmudgeon on Sunday, November 6, 2005 6:29 PM
I don't, and neither do "lobs".
Somethimes, it is handy to be a little more pointed in your potshot than a lob.

Sunshine Coast springs readily to mind.
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Posted by Curmudgeon on Sunday, November 6, 2005 7:22 PM
Looks like it needs to be so easy to live.
Anything more difficult.......
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Posted by Phil Hemingway on Monday, November 7, 2005 5:14 PM
Quote - I don't buy magazines, They are mainly rubbish.particularly to do with garden railways.

I dont agree. i get MR and GR plus Garden Rail a UK publication and they have been a constant source of inspiration and ideas.

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