LGB's New Harzquer 2-10-2 Steamer

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have one of these behemoth's that they would like to brag about?
Would love to hear what you think of it. That review in GR was great! The only thing I am a bit disappointed in is the "non sound" version price-point. Its around $1600; the sound version is only a couple hundred bucks more. This has got to be LGBs highest priced non-sound plastic lok...true that this loco has more non-molded add-on detail than any previous Euro loco; I guess the work in fixing all those little pieces comes at a heavier price tag.

[Anonymous]

Is it made in Germany or China?

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dontrainman

Is it made in Germany or China?

Don,

It's made in Germany.

There were a few running snags on the first few, but they have been corrected.
Translation of what a German mag had to say (product review) you'll find here
http://www.easternmountainmodels.com/pdf/1_05Pre.pdf

Happy reading

[Anonymous]

For some reason I have heard that the Poms are interested in this monster!

Why I don't know?


Regrds ian

[Bucksco]

I don't own one but I've run one at a few shows and it really is an awesome engine!
The last time I ran it was on a 4 1/2 by 8 foot layout with R1 curves and it really didn't look bad going around those tight turns. The GG1 on the other hand......

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bucksco

I don't own one but I've run one at a few shows and it really is an awesome engine!
The last time I ran it was on a 4 1/2 by 8 foot layout with R1 curves and it really didn't look bad going around those tight turns. The GG1 on the other hand......

Hi Jack, [;)]

I know what you mean about the GG-1.

Anyway, this is what Ralf Schiffermüller (the designer of the LGB 99 7222-5) had to say on the subject of R1 for the big Harz engine:

QUOTE: "It works on R1, but R2 is certainly more recommended. I personally would prefer R3."

From what I understand the 99 7222-5 will "grind" its way around the R1; that is, after display running one could clearly see brass shavings (from the track) in the R1 curves.


http://www.easternmountainmodels.com/pdf/1_05Pre.pdf

In addition to the review of the 99 7222-5, there is a separate article on the history of the prototype and another article on the design and construction phase of the engine at LGB.
I realize that you know what's behind any of the models, but it certainly will be an eye opener for those who have "only a buying aquaintance" with a product line i.e. not much of or no tooling and/or design background.

BTW I'm mighty interested to see what the "Genesis" will look like on R1, even if the kingpin distance is much better than on a GG-1. I hope you won't be disappointed be the finished product. The proto you built (very nice proportions!) looks promising, lets hope the "selective compression" was absent during the tooling phase. [;)][:)]

[Bucksco]

Actually I wouldn't recommend running it on R1 but that's what our little show layout was built with. It did amaze people that it could negotiate such tight turns. The same pretty much should hold true for the Genesis. Although it will run on R1 I personally would run it on something a bit wider.
Glad to hear you liked the Genesis prototype. At this point in my career I'm not on the bench doing model work anymore (although I do sculpt figures now and then ) I basically manage certain U.S. projects. But I will pass on the compliment to the modelmakers. The production model will be identical to what you saw since it was built using the actual 3D files that will be used to cut the tools. BTW I sent the preliminary 3D files for the Amfleet Coach and Cafe cars to Nurnberg today. They look really nice! (Check out the last couple pages of the current issue of the Depesche for a photo of the Genesis prototype and the Amfleet size mock up back to back-it will give you a good idea of proportions).

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by RhB_HJ


http://www.easternmountainmodels.com/pdf/1_05Pre.pdf

In addition to the review of the 99 7222-5, there is a separate article on the history of the prototype and another article on the design and construction phase of the engine at LGB.
I realize that you know what's behind any of the models, but it certainly will be an eye opener for those who have "only a buying aquaintance" with a product line i.e. not much of or no tooling and/or design background.

BTW I'm mighty interested to see what the "Genesis" will look like on R1, even if the kingpin distance is much better than on a GG-1. I hope you won't be disappointed be the finished product. The proto you built (very nice proportions!) looks promising, lets hope the "selective compression" was absent during the tooling phase. [;)][:)]

WOW! Thanks HJ for the article link!!! But where are the pix???

Love the prototype history, too...!!!


Regards,

Tom M.

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by LGBFan123

WOW! Thanks HJ for the article link!!! But where are the pix???

Love the prototype history, too...!!!


Regards,

Tom M.

Hi Tom,

For the pictures you'll need to subscribe to the German language mag. [;)][;)][:)]

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't mind one in place of the Sachsen I was going to buy. I can only tolerate 200 mm above the mean level of the rails is it any bigger than that does anyone know.

My tallest rolling stock is my Becks Beer box car with its little peaked dog box on top!


Rgds Ian

[devils]

got one of these and it's superb the only thing is it lurches away a bit so I've programmed some acceleration into it and it solved the problem. Only problem is getting the girlfriend to allow me to buy another one!