Ian P - If a man speaks in a desert where no woman can hear, Is he still wrong?
Originally posted by underworld I like the sliders from White Castle! [:p] Traction tires are nice if you need them. underworld [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] [/quote Ah,White Castle Sliders...Yesh,give me a dozen !!!] The Great Northern Lives! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 8, 2005 12:33 PM I find the mechanism that allows the slider to move up and down an area that eventually wears, and causes the slider to sometimes stick "up". If my locos run well without sliders, I'd remove them. I plan to experiment with this. Greg Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 8, 2005 7:37 PM If they were no good LGB woudn't put them on. Rgds Ian Reply Edit mgilger Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Near Akron Ohio 163 posts Posted by mgilger on Sunday, May 8, 2005 8:48 PM Sliders I'm finding help when you are outside. The friction self cleans the rails, although the sliders do need to be cleaned before every days operation. I have recently found out the traction wheels are a must on my layout. My original engine was a NW-2 with no traction tires. It had a very difficult time pulling 3 cars up a 3 % grade. My GP7, with a traction tire on each truck, has no problem pulling 4-5 times the number of cars up that same grade. The NW-2 is now assigned to swtiching duties in my main switching yard where it's flat. Regards, Mark[;)] M. Gilger - President and Chief Engineer MM&G web Web Site: http://mmg-garden-rr.webs.com/ Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 8, 2005 9:24 PM Ian, I gather you like LGB. You imply because they do something it must be right. I know people that have had LGB sliders hang up. Could it also be that LGB is so great that the sliders are overkill? Could it be that on certain garden railways that don't use oxidizing brass rail, and do not use 2' diameter curves, that sliders aren't necessary? I'm taking issue with your blanket statement, and also your signature (with photo) is 20 times the size of your reply. I'm not trying to cause trouble, but one-liners rarely have any helpful information in them, and my reply is because I asked a question about removing them, not how good LGB is. Please take this as constructive criticism, not the prelude to a boxing match! So, for anyone else, have they removed the sliders on equipment that also has pickup via the wheels? I don't like the appearance of the sliders, and while they can help "scrub" the rails, they can also accumulate dirt, and yes, even LGB sliders can jam up. I run DCC and with 10 amp supplies, overheated sliders have melted their "housings". Regards, Greg Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 9, 2005 5:07 AM greg i think maybe you don't like slider's! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 9, 2005 12:21 PM gregeusa. Sometimes the sliders get slightly bent and stick up.I usually attack them with some pliers until they behave themselves! If you don't like the appearance try painting them matt black.It blends them in. I have some with and some without.I don't really think it makes a difference.However,the more pickups the better. Reply Edit Chompers Member sinceApril 2003 From: New York 214 posts Posted by Chompers on Monday, May 9, 2005 2:05 PM what are sliders???? are they the metal things that ride allonge the rails on LGB locos or are they the power pickups on the tires??? The P.C.&.M.R.R SA#14 Reply Chompers Member sinceApril 2003 From: New York 214 posts Posted by Chompers on Monday, May 9, 2005 2:07 PM "Could it be that on certain garden railways that don't use oxidizing brass rail, and do not use 2' diameter curves, that sliders aren't necessary?" What's wronge with sharpe curves????? maybe some of us don't have room for 20' diamiter curves? The P.C.&.M.R.R SA#14 Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:55 AM well i have been running with both for over 6yrs no problems! Reply Edit hobbyfossi201 Member sinceAugust 2003 44 posts Posted by hobbyfossi201 on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:05 AM Well, both the sliders and the traction tyres have been since 2 years still in place, as they came right out of the box....and they work fine for me. So thereĀ“s no concern about taking them off. Regards Klaus Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:57 AM klaus thats right why fix it if ain't broke? Reply Edit Chompers Member sinceApril 2003 From: New York 214 posts Posted by Chompers on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:35 PM what are you talking about?[?][angel][%-)][{(-_-)}] The P.C.&.M.R.R SA#14 Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:04 AM Chompers: read up a few posts.... the thread is about sliders, pick up a USA trains loco or LGB loco, turn it over, look at the little metal shoes that slide on the rail for contact. Guys, I don't like the look of sliders. It's not a huge deal, but I think it is an area where I can improve the appearance of my locos. I know they help electrical contact. I'd like to do away with them if possible. Was looking for people with experience doing this. I believe you that yours work ok. I have seen them mess up. Greg Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:15 AM greg I have seen them with out but then they have problems with pick up later. take them off and try it just save them if you have to put them back on. most of my trains have silver trucks dont notice. blk trucks paint them shoes blk. Reply Edit Search the Community FREE EMAIL NEWSLETTER Get the Garden Railways newsletter delivered to your inbox twice a month Sign up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Garden Railways magazine. Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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