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A parade of Heralds!!!
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 27, 2005 8:13 PM
I think this is a good time for us all to display our heralds!

If you don't have webspace, I'm sure one of us can volunteer to donate some space for a small jpeg of a railroad's herald.

Here is mine...

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Posted by bman36 on Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:22 PM
Hey Capt.,
Looks great. Think it's time I made one up for our line! Later eh...Brian.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bman36

Hey Capt.,
Looks great. Think it's time I made one up for our line! Later eh...Brian.



I look forward to seeing it. If you need some space to put in to a webserver..I'll uplorad it to mine. Try not to make it too big.

Later...eh,
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Posted by vsmith on Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:28 PM


The logo for the Borracho Springs RR[;)]

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Posted by Tom The Brat on Monday, March 28, 2005 9:31 AM
[img=left]http://gold.mylargescale.com/torby/torbys.gif[/img=left]You've seen this before[:-,]
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Posted by cabbage on Monday, March 28, 2005 9:38 AM


Speaking technically -I do heraldry as a small hobby . What you are looking at is a coat of arms. The Herald is the person drawing the coat of arms.

The Shield is Blue and yellow -the colour of cables for DC of changing polarity. There are two dragon flies with lightening bolts to show the two buzzing bogies of an articulated loco.

The shield is surmounted by a Beast made of a Frog and a Butterfly. This indicates the number of frogs that had to be kissed in order to get it to work and the hope that from this ugly mess some form of beautiful butterfly will emerge. It sniffs a dog rose -symbolising the thorns that were there when I started and the dogged determination that I have that flowers will soon bloom there.

The motto is in English -standing for 'what is fated to be' -as in 'the wierd is upon me'. It also fits the look of the locos and lokeys.


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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Monday, March 28, 2005 10:53 AM
I need a designer, I'm artisticly challenged!!! Wife & I are thinking about possibly changing the name of our RR. Were gonna call it the "Rosebud & Western" cause it started at the rose bed and extended West from there! We've thought about "BoDi" (pronounced Bo-Dye) for Bob & Dianne. The one we really like is the "Round Tuit" as in "we'll do it when we get around to it!".
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Posted by TurboOne on Monday, March 28, 2005 10:53 AM
You guys have put in some amazing work to come up with your heralds. Way cool. Torby always like yours and today with the pic of the tomb, AWESOME.

Tim
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Posted by cabbage on Monday, March 28, 2005 12:29 PM
Thankyou!

Capt Bob if you like I will apply my talents, but I do need information to plan from.

Tim, I am also glad you like Torby's Coat of Arms...

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Posted by grandpopswalt on Monday, March 28, 2005 1:48 PM
Cappy,

I really like your logo. Mine will probably be along those lines. Some sort of arrangement saying "Winthrop & Deep River RR - the Connecticut river route".

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Posted by Rastun on Monday, March 28, 2005 2:30 PM
This is the basic idea that will be refined a bit more as things go along like a font change and such.



Later,
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Posted by nalts on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Capt Bob Johnson

I need a designer, I'm artisticly challenged!!!


Bob-

I'm a desinger by trade. I also know of a few others who like to apply ink to paper once in awhile. Let me know if I can help you out.

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Posted by TheJoat on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:28 PM
For the J&BRR...
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 28, 2005 10:38 PM
Very well done! Outstanding and capital!

Let's keep 'em coming. I'm glad you liked mine Walt...I wanted to keep it simple for design. Now, if only I could find a bloke that could do it in Dry Transfer!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 28, 2005 10:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cabbage



Speaking technically -I do heraldry as a small hobby . What you are looking at is a coat of arms. The Herald is the person drawing the coat of arms.

The Shield is Blue and yellow -the colour of cables for DC of changing polarity. There are two dragon flies with lightening bolts to show the two buzzing bogies of an articulated loco.

The shield is surmounted by a Beast made of a Frog and a Butterfly. This indicates the number of frogs that had to be kissed in order to get it to work and the hope that from this ugly mess some form of beautiful butterfly will emerge. It sniffs a dog rose -symbolising the thorns that were there when I started and the dogged determination that I have that flowers will soon bloom there.

The motto is in English -standing for 'what is fated to be' -as in 'the wierd is upon me'. It also fits the look of the locos and lokeys.


regards

ralph


Ahh, now what makes you think that I didn't mean a "parade of heralds" as a parade persons who have drawn their own. I had to choose my words carefully, in the US the banner of a Railway is often called a herald...and as you have said...a person who participates in the origin of such monikers is also a herald. Thus a double meaning!!

Thanks for the input, do you limit your heraldry to the British Isles and France? Could you find a blazon for Carrales? I think it is something like a capital F surrounded by five stars with a yellow saltire(sp) on a red background. This was told to me by my grandfather...thus I know little about it.
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Posted by TheJoat on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:38 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Capt Carrales

Very well done! Outstanding and capital!

Let's keep 'em coming. I'm glad you liked mine Walt...I wanted to keep it simple for design. Now, if only I could find a bloke that could do it in Dry Transfer!

Capt Carrales

Capt,
Dry transfers are getting harder to get in the US. You might want to try decals. I've been quite pleased with the ones I got from Stan Cedarleaf. I've used his on all of my rolling stock, and I've been delighted.
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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:45 AM
Cabbage & Nalts, thanks for the offers, now all I've got to do is get the woman to make up her mind as to which name she likes, probably take a month of sundays to get that answer!

We've worked out the color scheme for our paint jobs tho!
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Posted by Tom The Brat on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:05 AM
Ralph designed mine for the Asylum Valley Nickel & Dime Railroad. Let's see if I get all the meanings:



1. A castle, symbol of home. It has a porticullis, so it's a safe home--Asylum.
2. 2 hunting lions, sons. Since they have no manes, they are immature sons, boys. They face the door so they take from the door. They want the trains.
3. The cross (Saltaire) is Ruby red. It means knight on armored horse.. Iron horse.
4. Silver shield shows nobility and serenity in poverty.
5. Code flags are 0, 1 and knight templar, a reference to my profession. I'm a computer programer and use Clarion Templates heavily.
6. Stars indicate money. Gold is self made money. Silver is inherited money. Copper is absense of money. Many stars, much absence of money.
7. The deer is a male, a buck. It's standing still. Not a fast buck.
8. The flower decorations are called "Frets." That's what the management does.
9. The latin motto indicates high birth. My railroad is higher than most, in my 2nd floor apartment.
10. The latin motto, "Cuprium Advante" translates "copper straight," or "brass rails."
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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:11 AM
Torby

Very well done, I doubt if those who really do have family crests could explain them as well as you did. Great sense of humor.[:D]

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Posted by grandpopswalt on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:44 AM
Wait a minute! I thought a Herald was a Knights young assistant, when did they start doing artwork?

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by grandpopswalt

Wait a minute! I thought a Herald was a Knights young assistant, when did they start doing artwork?

Walt


Now Now, Walt,

You were there with me at the Tournament in Worms when Sir Loin Worchestershire of Saucia proclaimed to the multitudes that Heralds needed to take on extra work. Surely you remember, that was the same time Jeff Chaucer told you that one joke...

And thus this joly prentys hadde his leve.
Now lat hym riote al the nyght or leve.
And for ther is no theef withoute a lowke,
That help eth hym to wasten and to sowke
Of that he brybe kan or borwe may,
Anon he sente his bed and his array
Unto a compeer of his owene sort,
That lovede dys, and revel, and disport,
And hadde a wyf that heeld for contenance
A shoppe, and swyved for hir sustenance.


Golly that always slays me!!!

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Posted by cabbage on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:05 PM
Capt,

The problem I normally have got with American heraldry relates to Ellis Island....
Now the common one is everybody in the US called Lockheed should spell their name Loughead.

I THINK based on the clues you have given me and various spelling of your your surname -country of origin please?

I will have a go for you.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 2:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cabbage

Capt,

The problem I normally have got with American heraldry relates to Ellis Island....
Now the common one is everybody in the US called Lockheed should spell their name Loughead.

I THINK based on the clues you have given me and various spelling of your your surname -country of origin please?

I will have a go for you.

regards

ralph


Spain, Asturias to be exact...my other half is from the Canary Islands. Thanks.
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Posted by cabbage on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:52 PM
The Spanish style Coat of Arms normally contains a shield split into four - for parents and grandparents of the bearer. At the back of this is a cape with a crown on it.

The F is (I think) a stylised Seahorse -common in Catalonia sourced Arms.

There is no Carrales Coat listed in the Spanish Archives -this may be due to General Franco -who burnt most of the source books...

I will keep trying for you.

regards

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:55 PM
Torby why don't you change your lions to lionesses did you know thatis the symbol above the enntry to i think its Myacina, ive been there. Its in Greece and that is the where Hector and all them blokes came from to do with the war on Troy.

Twin lionesses depict the power and fexibility of Myacina.

Rgds ian
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Posted by grandpopswalt on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:48 PM
Cappy,

You're right, I do remember that day. Oh that Chaucer, he always was good for great story, and that one always cracked me up as well. But seriously folks, I find no mention of Herald as a producer of coats-of-arms in Webster’s. The closest I find is “an official in charge of genealogies, heraldic arms, etc.” Sounds to me as though the Herald was the guy who kept track of and had control over the coats-of-arms. There is no mention of “maker”, “designer”, “creator”, or “producer” of these genealogies. Could it be that the person who actually drew the crest was called something else?

BTW, I too have a “Herald”. A split shield, on one half, a rocking chair, on the other, a molar with very long roots. I’m told that both symbols attest to my longevity.

Walt
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Posted by Tom The Brat on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:42 AM
"heraldic arms" What do you think a coat-of-arms is?

Two young lions represent Caleb and Ethan:


(Caleb wears glasses. Ethan doesn't.)

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