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Odd weathering question
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:20 AM
Hi all
Tonight on the 16mm news group.
I had an odd qustion thrown at me.
the question was "how do I simulate spilled treacle on a treacle tank wagon??"
Has any one got any bright ideas for mating a tank wagon look "all orrible an sticky " as if treacle loading was not always that carefully done.
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Posted by grandpopswalt on Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:35 AM
John,

I'm probably stepping into a setup, but what is "treacle"?

Walt
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:42 AM
treacle becomes black when left to the elements.The thing is-if treacle is all sticky -would there be a treacle covered wagon.Surely they would have been sprayed down
Best thing is to get some 'n' scale coal and cover the wagon in it.If anyone asks what the black is----it's a multitude of flies eating the treacle.
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Posted by Rastun on Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:45 AM
You could use something along the lines of 5 minute epoxy and drip it onto the car about like a nozzle being pulled away then drop some sandy gravel mix onto it, paint it all black then highlight the taller bits of sand that stick up as stuff being stuck onto the car.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 12, 2005 11:04 AM
Hi Grandpopswalt
I am not sure where it comes from, sugar possably??
But it is a very thick brown coloured sickly sweet liquid used in some deserts and cakes.
Thats the best I can give as an answer
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 12, 2005 11:15 AM
Hi Troy
Since the wagons are suposedly coming from a Ehrrm treacle mine probably be a fair bit sloped around the place both old and fresh.
like the flys idea[:D][(-D]
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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:12 PM
Isn't it just an old term for molasses, or blackstrap molasses? Used in late 1700's and early 1800's as per Hornblower stories???
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:16 PM
Bob's got that right.
Bob,check out some Patrick O'Brian if you like C.S Forester.
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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:49 PM
Troy,

Got just about all of them. Also the Alex Kent, Richard Woodman, Dudley Pope, Dewey Lamdin, Kenneth Maynard, and the requisite amount of Philip McCutchen.

Too bad the schools today don't require that kind of stuff in reading, the kids would learn a lot more about leadership, responsibility, duty, & honor!
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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:54 PM
Getting back to subject.

Why not try some dark walnut varnish/stain dribbled on car until you get the desired effect, then seal it with something like a clear polyurethane varnish or an automobile clear coat.

I'd think a satin varnish would keep it from being too shiny!
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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Saturday, March 26, 2005 1:59 PM
John,
Did you ever come up with an answer to this one? How did it turn out?
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Posted by RhB_HJ on Saturday, March 26, 2005 4:55 PM
Use dark-brown to black acrylic paint, thinned just a little bit. Try on a scrap piece of plastic first to see how thin it needs to be to run down the side really slowly.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:39 PM
Listen you lot; I live in one of the worlds largest treacle production areas and there is no treacle mine. I sure you yanks have it as well but as usual you have called it something else. It is a derivitive of sugar as is rum and it is more a viscous liquid made out of burnt sugar.

How you make it or how you simulate it I have no idea nor do i have any idea why you would want too.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 27, 2005 6:11 AM
Treacle toffee at bonfire time, wonderful memories of childhood. I suppose you could actually use the real thing and lick the car now and then to shape it.[:P]
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Kim
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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:14 AM
Kim, I laughed for 5 minutes at that one!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:10 PM
Hey Kim I wonder if our American mates have or had bonfires, no doubt if they do they call them something else. Did you have cracker night as well, before they stopped the whole thing with new laws on safety and insurance and stuff like that.

We used to have Empire night, which was also bon fire night and cracker night but it's all gone now.

We used to blow up our neighbours letter boxes with bungers and the real crazy kids used to blow their own letterbox up!

However when you got old enough to do some real damage; you got more interested in girls. Ah some good times were had after all the little kids and their parents had gone and just the two of you in the dark near some big dying old fire, wow.


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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:12 PM
Ian,
Us colonials (as if you guys aren't) also have bonfires. They are usually big things used as pep rallies for high school & college football (Not the refined game of soccer) games, and usually held the evening before the game.

The little jobbies are usually called campfires and you can sit around them toasting marshmellows, shooting the bull, and after the little ones nod off you can down a couple of brewski's. Don't really need any special reason for one of them!

From what I gather from your writing on crackers, it sounds rather like our old mischief night. That's the night before Halloween. Boy, I could tell you some stories of what we did in my town in the 1950's on mischief night! now it is all rather tame, but to a young teenager in those days????
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Posted by underworld on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:25 PM
Yeah....we have bonfires here. A friend of mine bought a house last year and we have bonfires there about every weekend. It's in the city but the property goes deep....so no one complains. We cook hot dogs, hamburgers, steaks, etc. No treacle stuff though.

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