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Thought!
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 11:50 AM
I've just had a thought.These big diesel things I've been seeing a lot of pictures of lately should be quite easy to scratchbuild.If anyone can provide some pictures of a certain type I would be grateful.All I need is a front,both sides and back with a G scale figure standing next to each picture.(ground level shots) Could be vastly entertaining from a modelling disaster point of view if I post a picture each week.( plus a very happy young son who would run a big diesel than a boring old tram )
Thanks,Troy
P.S.He really wants one of these.No answer and you will all get a picture of a pile of balsa wood for the next 6 months[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 7:56 PM
Hey Troy have you seen my picture of a 100 year old steam tram that still runs around the City of Rockhampton (Rocky). You can get a ride on it of a Sunday morning at 10 Am for $4.00 X 0.4 = GBP 1.60.

Rocky is unique in that it is located directly on the tropic of Capricorn at 23.5 degrees south.


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 5:45 AM
I was serious about this scratchbuild.Someone must have a camera?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 8:42 AM
Troy
Whats wrong with your local library?
I would sugest an NZR, WAGR QR or TGR or similar big noise box on wheels at least it will be 3'6" gauge the same as a Tram[:D]
Perhaps some one in NZ could photograph the multi bogie job for you
regards John
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Posted by bman36 on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 8:57 AM
Hey Troy,
What particular Diesel are you talking about??? There are so many out there now. The only diesel I have is an old Alco FA1. Quite a mouse compared to the Dash 9's rolling along today. Sounds to me like quite a challenge! Later eh...Brian.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 9:10 AM
One like Marty's always running.I like to builds from only pictures.That way if someone says it looks wrong I make them eat the picture [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 9:11 AM
Troy
I have a few diesels 2 RS-3's a U25 B and a center cab, and 5 shifters, i don't have a DASH--9, because it will not work on my short turns . I'LL buy then,not build they
to hard for me. [:)]BEN
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 4, 2005 9:58 AM
Don't worry I've found some pictures online.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 11:49 PM
Has there ever been diesel trams, street cars subway cars etc?


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Posted by kstrong on Thursday, January 6, 2005 1:31 AM
Some of the early New York Central and Central New Jersey diesels resembled tram locos, though they were generally referred to as "Boxcab" diesels. Horribly ugly beasts they were, but the same can really be said for all diesels. [;)] Diesel subways? Unlikely. The fumes in the tunnels would be unbearable. Perhaps the odd MOW piece, but that's it. Diesel street cars? It depends on how you define "street car." In terms of the vintage equipment, none that I can think of. (Diesel electric and gas electric doodlebug type vehicles don't count.) However, there's an outfit out here just north of Denver that makes diesel light rail vechicles that look exactly like modern electric street cars, but are powered by diesel engines. These are the cars that will be used on the new line that is to be built from downtown out to the airport, and north to Boulder and Longmont.

Later,

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 8:07 AM
Hi Troy
Just had a daft thought have you concidered a tube battery locomotive as a possable for a model.
The ones they use for maint trains when the power is off.
regards John
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 11:45 AM
I think when the London Underground was first built they used steam.They used hot bricks to heat the water to eliminate smoke from the firebox.
John,this sounds intriging.I like to build models of things that cannot be bought.It makes it more fun and unique.Have you got a picture? Also I like to wind up my Dad with "you have a massive layout,but you havn't got one of these,ha,ha"
Also my main problem at the moment is finding my favourite scratchbuilding motors
Aristocraft ART 29356.If anyone can find them somewhere where they export to the UK I would be very grateful.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 12:08 PM


Ian, the recently completed Riverline which links Camden and Trenton, New Jersey along the Delaware River is powered by diesel cars. In many areas it operates on city streets, in others on a dedicated right of way. I took the above picture in Burlington, New Jersey, midway along the route.

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Bill C.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 8, 2005 2:15 AM
Hi Troy
A few models of The Metropolitan Railway steamers have been done in the
small scales with and without condensers.
Am pretty sure they where coal fired which must have made the tunnels unpleasant places inspite of the regular vents to the surface wasn't long before the electrics like Sarah Sidens where built that one is preserved I think.
I am sure I read some where the first coaches did not have windows and that goods trains also ran under the streets of London I did have a picture of a Metropolitain open wagon bit that looked pretty much like a standard wooden framed wagon of the time.
Will see if I have a picture of the battery locomotive, if you talk nicely to the London Transport PR man you might be able to get a good general arangement drawing and some photos of one
regards John
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Posted by powlee on Saturday, January 8, 2005 4:52 AM
Hi Troy
You can order the motor block through any Aristo dealer in the States at $55 plus post.
Garden Railway Specialists ;Princes Risborough advertise on their website for £35.20 but you may have to order if not in stock. www.grsuk.com
All the best
Ian P

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 8, 2005 5:45 AM
Thanks Ian.I'll give ita go.But as for GRS [censored][censored][censored][banghead][tdn][V]Never going there again.
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Posted by powlee on Saturday, January 8, 2005 5:59 AM
Troy
GRS? I am intrigued. How about Kent Garden Railways. Nearer you.
Ian

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 8, 2005 8:52 AM
Kent Garden Railways are the best thing since sliced bread.It's a real pleasure to deal with someone that isn't a complete condescending idiot.GRS are another matter.My Father and I went there for a visit.He has bought a lot from them in the past(and I mean serious money,we are talking retired and very rich!) I on the other hand like to make my own way,with what funds are available to me.(eg zero) When I was there they did not have what I wanted so I said ok I'll look on the internet.I then had to stand there in front of the whole shop whilst the proprieter gave me a lecture on the internet is killing local model shops!.
The result is that my Father had to drag me from the shop before I had Ideas about killing him and now we both deal with Kent Garden Railways.Far more soothing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 8, 2005 9:12 AM
Hi Troy
if you look at where I am you can imagin the responce GRS got when they wanted me to come and see them.
I just asked who was going to pay the air fare so even when I eventualy get to the UK you can guess where I am not going as they where not helpfull.
I will have to have a word with your ol man I think, about the dis service done to the model world.
regards John
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 9, 2005 10:59 PM
What you said about idiots in the Garden Railway game is of interest to me. I will not mention this persons name but he lives in Kent and has a famous film stars name (like Gregory Peck but it wasn't him). The reply I got was incredible, so bad and uncalled for in fact I was stunned and after 40 years in Industrial selling that takes some doing, believe me.


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:13 AM
GRS gets a mention again. He's without doubt the most obnoxious man I've ever had the dis-pleasure of meeting/dealing with. Apart from the odd e-mail/phone enquiery -no doubt with underlings - I've not dealt with them for about 9 or 10 years now and have no plans to do so. This guy must lose thousands a year because he pi**es so many people off. This all ties in with the 'rude dealer' topic that's circulating.
RENE - perhaps we can have a 'contemptible person Dealer of the Year Award'. Nominations in by October and the award made in time for Christmas.
Just a thought!
Cheers,
Kim
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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:04 AM
Kim,
I'd have thought "Posterior Portion Train Store Owner" might be more fitting when judged by the tales I'm reading here! Thank heavens dealers like that don't seem to stay in business very long around here!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:51 AM
Hi Bob,
This guy has been around for years, I used to buy from him in the 80's when I lived down that neck of the woods and his shop in those days was photography with a small railway section. I literally spent thousands there with the majority being LGB and some early Delton stuff, he knew me and he knew what I ran but when my wife went to the shop to buy me a Christmas present he told her I would love the LGB White Pass container wagon. Come Christmas day I opened the parcel to find the crapiest wagon I've ever seen and he wouldn't change it!! Like Troy I nearly dropped him where he stood. I bet he has a great circle of friends!!
Cheers,
Kim
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