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Working with Foam (Or go to Plan B?)

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Posted by PVT Kanaka on Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:01 AM

Tom,

A belated "Thank you!" for the tip above! We finally had the time to glue some rocks down, though at the base, and it went a long way to transitioning from the vertical walls into the roadbed / garden bed.  Of course, three sets of little hands glued themselves to the future tunnel, rocks, ties, tracks, etc., but, as you said, small price to pay for the memories!

Absent professional obligations...or another home improvement project...we should be through this phase of our mountain building shortly.  I'll post pictures and updates as warranted on my construction blog"Progress on the Triple P" as they are warranted.

 

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Posted by ttrigg on Friday, March 27, 2015 5:12 PM

May I suggest a method of hiding the 90 degree corners of the roof and walls. After your paint has cured, take some small pieces of crushed rock and attach them where the roof and wall meet with a small dab of liquid nails. Adding some large particles of crushed rock dust to the final coat of paint will add texture to the tunnel interior.

As messy as it may have been for all their assistance, they have some fantastic memories of building "their" railroad.

Tom Trigg

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Posted by PVT Kanaka on Friday, March 27, 2015 1:59 AM

The plan to carefully mix a base coat to match the cinder blocks crashed as soon as the paint came open and my three year old, his siblings, and the neighbor kid grabbed brushes.  The effort devolved into a mad dash to keep most of the paint on the foam.  It ended up on the rails and roadbed a yard in either direction and on each painter, the youngets of whom needed an immediate bath.  At least the foam did get a coat of "faded warship grey!" 

Given my work environment and the crew's enthusiastic desire lend to, I have decided to simply coat the future tunnel interior with a brown latex roughly the color of the lava rock.  In the end, their participation is more valuable to the long term success of this project than the tunnel interior.  Still, I think I am going to use this technique (foam and washes) for smaller items like the portals as we move forward.

 

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Posted by PVT Kanaka on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:08 AM

Good advice.  Thanks.  The expanding foam is still curing in places, with consistency of a well toasted marshmallow.

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Posted by ttrigg on Monday, March 23, 2015 4:44 AM

Do what ever is needed to keep some decoration inside the tunnel. There are a good number of us, and I put myself at the head of the list, who no longer allow camera cars on the right of way due to an unsightly tunnel interior. If I had it to do over again I would send camera cars through the tunnel prior to putting the roof on, just to check the condition of the inside. At some point you will probably want pix of the train coming out of the tunnel and the camera WILL capture the inside of the tunnel. 

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Posted by PVT Kanaka on Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:29 AM

Update...my father-in-law has a glue he thinks will work.  In the worst case, we are out some free foam, a couple squirts of glue, and a pair of beverages.

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Posted by ttrigg on Sunday, March 15, 2015 4:09 AM

That, my friend, is a hard question. When I had my blocks in place for my tunnel I started trying to seal it all up. As some of the gaps between blocks were larger than others I went a different route. I covered the "tunnel blocks" with 4 layers of 15 pound roofing felt. I then mortared in the stones for the portals. I'll leave it to others to provide a better answer to your question. Glad to hear you are still maing progress.

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Working with Foam (Or go to Plan B?)
Posted by PVT Kanaka on Saturday, March 14, 2015 10:45 PM

Aloha!

OK, so we are starting our tunnels, drawing from the recent GR issues on the subject and the "how to" video on the GR website, specifically the one for the portals.

Our tunnels will be built over hollow tile blocks.  We split the hollow tile in half, and we wanted to use foam fillers between what would've been the ends and middle of the full block.  

Here are my thoughts and questions:

  1. If we seal the foam before we wedge the pieces into place, will we just negate our work?  
  2. Can we get by if we simply glue the foam inserts into place and seal the surfaces that will be exposed to the trains?  
  3. Or should we go to the back-up plan and glue rubble to the cinderblocks with "liquid nails?" This is "Plan B."

I'd like to make the whole thing as "fire and forget" as possible, as, once capped, we are covering the lot in lava rock, which all hands agree is far more attractive than hollow tile!

Thanks as always!

Eric

 

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