Lionel Standard Gauge.....Help

[Anonymous]

Is Lionel Standard Gauge the same as G Scale?

[Anonymous]

Hi bluebonnet-71
In a Word NO standard gauge is 21/8" gauge (ERR!! I think).
however like "G" its toys some std gauge may be able to be re Trucked for use with "G" some of the lineside acsesories may also be of use
I have been looking for a common as muck line side sign as a conversation starter but no luck yet
Thought about transmition towers wich are probably be Ok but have not been ablr to find any clearly catalogued as standard gauge.
regards John

[Anonymous]

Blue, I have my grandfather's standard gauge station, passenger set and some of his figures from the 1920s and have often thought that today they were close to what we consider to be large scale. Here you see one of my Bachmann Jackson & Sharp cars with one of my grandfather's passenger cars. He gave me this equipment 50 years ago when I was a boy long after he had changed over to O gauge.

The scale of the Bachmann car is 1:22.5; and I would guess the standard gauge car is somewhere around 1:32, but perhaps its toy-status proportions leave that open to debate. However based on what I have seen for sale at shows, some of Lionel's standard gauge cars were quite large in proportion, while others were relatively small.

G gauge track measures 45 mm, and a quick check with my ruler of the wheel space shows that Lionel's standard gauge is about 54 or 55 mm, which is pretty close to what John suggested in English measure. My standard gauge track is packed away in the attic so that's the best I could do on short notice.

Regards,
Bill C.
South Jersey

[Anonymous]

I'm not positve but Lionel's motive power I'm sure is AC powered like there "O" stuff. just a thought.

[Anonymous]

Matt, you're right that it's three-rail and runs on a Lionel AC transformer.

Regards,
Bill

[Curmudgeon]

Bachmann's cars are 1:22.5, not 1:20, a big problem with all their 1:20 locos.
"Marklin produced and promoted #1 and O gauge trains, while Lionel shifted from its original 2 7/8" gauge to its "Standard" Gauge of 2 1/8". Standard Gauge remained a staple of US toy trains until the late 1930."

For reference, here are the gauges:

#1 Gauge 1 3/4" - 45mm
#2 Gauge 2"
#3 Gauge 2 1/2" - 64mm

As you can see, Lionel Standard is somewhere between #2 and #3 gauge.
The SCALE is indeterminate.
As with most Lionel (other than specific Scale pieces), that scale is what looks right.

TOC

[Anonymous]

Sorry about the typo on the Bachmann J&S size, TOC. That was an error on my part and I fixed it.

Regards,
Bill

[Curmudgeon]

No criticsm of YOU......why come out with locos of one scale but not cars of same scale?

Grrrr.
TOC

[Anonymous]

OK, that answered my questions and more.
I have a man that is willing to part with a crane car (I think it might be a 250 ton type) for 225.00.
Sadly enought I just wanted the measurments off of it to make my own.

Oh yeah I am still packing my stuff anyone want to help? [:D]

[Anonymous]

Hey ya'll

Bluebonnet. I have had the pleasure of running MTH's fabulous Standard Gauge Blue Comet at a friends house many times. From what I see, it is G-Scale size, and the hobby shop said that it was quite possible to take standard gauge stuff and siwtch it with G scale trucks. Have a go at it.

Nick