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Problem with 2cyl Live steam shay

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Problem with 2cyl Live steam shay
Posted by Rocinante on Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:08 PM
For a few years now I have had a 2 cylinder live steam Accucraft shay and just recently I am noticing that I am having problems filling it with butane. Some days it doesn't want to refill with butane at all, other days no problems for the first run and then after that I have to put it away. Anyone else have this problem? What can cause this?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 1:13 AM

It´s a common issue and not only related to your Accucraft Shay. You will encounter this mainly at really hot days or "hot" engines. During my time as a live steam operator I did not find a solution to the issue other than letting the loco cool off before refilling the gas tank.

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Posted by Grims on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:11 AM

I dont know a darn thing about live steam but i do know after years of using butane, propane, and acceteline that even though the burnable gas is gone some of the agents used to give the gases a scent and just a trace of the gas it self can build pressure making it hard to refill much like an empty gas can in the sun builds pressure.

If you can purge that pressure from the tank (somewhere away from open flames) then you should be able to refill your tank.

But like I said I dont know a thing about live steam.

When I read about the evils of drinking I quit reading.

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Posted by ztribob on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:47 AM

I don't have a Shay but I do have a live steam loco that burns butane.  My butane fuel tank is in the tender behind the locomotive and I've never had that problem.  I suspect if your fuel tank is in the locomotive that the heat from the boiler might create enough pressure to cause a problem with refilling it after running it.  Some people suggest opening the valve a little to the burner as your trying to fill it to let off some of the pressure.  You might try it and see if it works.

Bob

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Posted by wheelman on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 2:37 PM

Hello,

Since one run per session has always scratched my itch to steam, I have not encountered your problem. But it might be worth a try to pour cool water onto your tank and its vicinity before a second run. Just an idea.

Wayne

Wayne

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:25 PM

wheelman

Hello,

Since one run per session has always scratched my itch to steam, I have not encountered your problem. But it might be worth a try to pour cool water onto your tank and its vicinity before a second run. Just an idea.

Wayne

Just make sure you don´t pour it over the boiler, though!

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