Once Upon a time.........
My photobucket:
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/JohnReid/
I am a man of few words but lots of pics
I quit drinking beer because the download was taking longer than the upload !
Beginning of saloon facade/dressing rooms building.
I am getting a little tired of making fences so I have started to do some serious research on old west facades and buildings and their construction techniques.I will for the first two make the whole building as it will serve two purposes that of a facade and an actual dressing rooms for the actors.I first plan just to do the exteriors and use a sign to indicate what they are "Actors Dressing Rooms."I will light them behind curtains and shades only but leave access to the interiors if I later want to add furnishings.I am already planning a second module, to be screwed to this one, containing the facades only.(next winter's project)Old west stuff seems to be pretty simple construction with few exterior decorations but lots of doors and windows, which is actually a plus for storyboarding using signs and stuff in the windows and doors for example.
HO model used for forced perspective.
Where you see the Kleenex boxes is where the saloon facade will be with the actors dressing rooms in behind.
I think that I have got the hang of it now !
OK ! thank you very much.
Thanks Dave for the heads up ! This site has changed since I last posted here and I haven't been able to figure out how to post pics here.Any tips ?
This thread was pretty intense and active a year ago and I was surprised to see it revivied. It is an interesting and worthy project. For the benefit of others here is the General portion of the overall photobucket site
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/JohnReid/The%20General/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ20
I have seen this model on display in a version covered with rust and heavily damaged (modeled damage I should add), and it was a very effective diorama -- a burned out locomotive of the sort the South probably had plenty of in 1865.
The General as MPC offered it is not exactly its Civil War condition but it would nonetheless be interesting to create a scene or two from the locomotive chase, such as The General and boxcars passing the siding where the old Yonah -- an indistrial locomotive and an unexpected means of pursuit -- was steaming. That might have been the most crucial moment in the entire incident.
Dave Nelson
Hi guys ! now that I am finished with my commitment to the museum it is now full steam ahead with "The General."
Here is a little example that I did on the movie making side of the old station car.There just is no comparison between the plastic and real wood and it really isn't hard to do on the outside of the car.Morton's car will be dark green however.
Old weather beaten ceiling from inside with a wood frame underneath and another layer of boards on top to create the roof.
Hi Brent ! don't know ,still trying to track it down.
John I have read that on buildings they used canvas and pitch over wood on buildings. Would they have done something similar on rail cars?
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Thanks Rich ! good idea ,sometimes the obvious is staring you right in the face.
From previous research I was able to determine what the boards look like under the finishing material.I have also seen tin used in a kind of sheet and batten arrangement.What I am confused about is what would have been used when this car was built around 1860 ?
John,
You should contact the Southern Museum where The General is located on display.
Surely, they could provide such information.
Here is the web site:
http://www.locomotivegeneral.com/general.html
Here is the info on how to contact the museum concerning The General:
http://www.locomotivegeneral.com/contactus.html
Rich
Alton Junction
Well I have decided to add a few more months work to the project.I was originally planning to save a little time by just weathering the exterior of this car but because nothing looks as good as the real thing,wood, I now plan to board it up instead.I have also opened up all the doors both interior and exterior for better camera angle shots of the interior.I will retain the red framed windows and stain the siding about the same green. On the roof it is presently what looks like a fine sandpaper type surface.Does anyone here know what may have been used on the real thing ? A tar paper or canvas material ? I could use a cloth backed sandpaper of appropriate grit and just paint it .Any ideas ?
JohnReid Good idea ! I will see what I can do. Thanks. I am still not 100% happy with the cabinetry in the corners.I will try some filler or add some crud to the area to tone it down a bit.At normal viewing distance a lot of this is hardly noticeable but the camera seems to pick up every little thing.
Good idea ! I will see what I can do. Thanks.
I am still not 100% happy with the cabinetry in the corners.I will try some filler or add some crud to the area to tone it down a bit.At normal viewing distance a lot of this is hardly noticeable but the camera seems to pick up every little thing.
Oh yeah, especially when you can resize the photo to fit the entire screen.
But it looks good though.
Nice baseboard, but I would still add some quarter round or shoe moulding along the floor.
Thanks John, that's what I wanted to know. I got a couple bags of veneer's from a Woodcraft store once, & they are nice, they are not backed so sometimes they may split when doing real small work or the blade needs resharpening. Nothing beats real wood!
Hi Chad ! yes I use veneer ,hobby store wood whatever I can find.Just keep your eye open too for found wood.
This Bachmann car is easy to adapt to veneering as the plastic walls are already quite thin.Just sand off what you don't want.I would use two part 5 min exopy for gluing purposes.The hardest part is the constant fitting and re-fitting of the parts together for measuring etc...The plastic is very forgiving and is not easily broken.All in all it makes for a nice bashing project.
John.
Are you using thin veneer stock to model the inside? Looks pretty nice.
How much of any detail did you need to remove from the inside to keep a resonable wall thickness??
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