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Here is a struture I have been working on!
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 18, 2004 5:55 PM
I have posted this on in the main forum, but thought it should be here too.

Here is a webpage I have made of some structures I have been working on. I don't have this connected or linked to my webpage yet. Please comment on my structures, I need the advice.

http://normamicaela.tripod.com/structures.html

Guys, help me on these.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 9:54 AM
hi Capt Carrales
Whats tack board? look very nice
Overkill on bracing is not a bad thing.
If your matierials are not weather proof make sure you seal them well and paint with exterior grade paint.
Boy will you be in trouble when you try to build a delapitated building you will find these are harder than good ones.
Probably showing ignorance of local and seen one too many westerns here but shouldn't some of your buildings be adobe?
Dont forget to do a Ranger station[:D]
My personal opinion only but three buildings that should be on all railways other than railway buildings police station in your case Texas Rangers might be more approriate hotel/saloon and a house of worship you will not go any where in the world that dosen't have a variation or substitute on those so it follows that they should show up on our railways in some form or other.
Don't over do quantity of buildings remember to leave room for the garden to play its part
in the illusion.
that must amount to at least 4c worth
regards John
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Posted by bman36 on Monday, July 19, 2004 10:10 AM
Hey there Capt. C.,
Well Done! You are on the right track (pun intended). Just keep doing what you are doing. As you learn you will discover what works best for your climate. My first structures were not weatherproof either. The new ones are. Then again nothing is ever weather "proof". Keep at your own style of building. It's what keeps our modelling unique and not looking like "cookie cutter" designs. Most of all have fun. Without it, it just becomes work. Thanks for sharing all that time you put in. Just think how ahead of the game you will be when the track goes down. Later eh...Brian.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 10:15 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by John Busby

hi Capt Carrales
Whats tack board? look very nice
Overkill on bracing is not a bad thing.
If your matierials are not weather proof make sure you seal them well and paint with exterior grade paint.
Boy will you be in trouble when you try to build a delapitated building you will find these are harder than good ones.
Probably showing ignorance of local and seen one too many westerns here but shouldn't some of your buildings be adobe?
Dont forget to do a Ranger station[:D]
My personal opinion only but three buildings that should be on all railways other than railway buildings police station in your case Texas Rangers might be more approriate hotel/saloon and a house of worship you will not go any where in the world that dosen't have a variation or substitute on those so it follows that they should show up on our railways in some form or other.
Don't over do quantity of buildings remember to leave room for the garden to play its part
in the illusion.
that must amount to at least 4c worth
regards John


John,
I may be using the incorrect terminology, but what I say when I mean "tackboard" is a presentation board that is some high grade form product between two heavy grade pieces of posterboard.

Its easy to cut and shape. I am still testing its outdoor worthyness. The buildings are based loosely on some old trackside structures in Premont, Falfurrias and Alice, Texas.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 10:18 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bman36

Hey there Capt. C.,
Well Done! You are on the right track (pun intended). Just keep doing what you are doing. As you learn you will discover what works best for your climate. My first structures were not weatherproof either. The new ones are. Then again nothing is ever weather "proof". Keep at your own style of building. It's what keeps our modelling unique and not looking like "cookie cutter" designs. Most of all have fun. Without it, it just becomes work. Thanks for sharing all that time you put in. Just think how ahead of the game you will be when the track goes down. Later eh...Brian.




Brian,

My next projects will be made out of "paneling," these sould be a bit more weatherproof. Form there I get into grades of finer and finer wood until I get to the apex of sturctuing.

Capt Carrales
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, July 19, 2004 7:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Capt Carrales

QUOTE: Originally posted by John Busby

hi Capt Carrales
Whats tack board? look very nice
Overkill on bracing is not a bad thing.
If your matierials are not weather proof make sure you seal them well and paint with exterior grade paint.
Boy will you be in trouble when you try to build a delapitated building you will find these are harder than good ones.
Probably showing ignorance of local and seen one too many westerns here but shouldn't some of your buildings be adobe?
Dont forget to do a Ranger station[:D]
My personal opinion only but three buildings that should be on all railways other than railway buildings police station in your case Texas Rangers might be more approriate hotel/saloon and a house of worship you will not go any where in the world that dosen't have a variation or substitute on those so it follows that they should show up on our railways in some form or other.
Don't over do quantity of buildings remember to leave room for the garden to play its part
in the illusion.
that must amount to at least 4c worth
regards John


John,
I may be using the incorrect terminology, but what I say when I mean "tackboard" is a presentation board that is some high grade form product between two heavy grade pieces of posterboard.

Its easy to cut and shape. I am still testing its outdoor worthyness. The buildings are based loosely on some old trackside structures in Premont, Falfurrias and Alice, Texas.


Uh Oh, If that Tackboard is the same as Foam-core board, you will find it is very bad for long term outdoors exposure. You will have to pick up the structures when not in use and keep them inside. Dont let them get wet, they will disintegrate and they might warp under extreme sunlight.[:0]

It sounds very much like the product we use to build architectural models with, its great for indoor applications but outside isnt a good idea. It is also very light and might require additional weight or attachment to keep from blowing away in wind. If you store them inside and keep them from getting wet they will last a while, but I suspect you will eventually want to replace them with more permanent structures.

If these are intended for permenant outdoor use I would use wood construction similar to a dollhouse, IOW 1/4inch Plywood glued and nailed together with wood or UV plastic details applied with exterior quality glues or fasteners.

Sorry if this is bad news, but I at least need to warn you if it is so....

   Have fun with your trains

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Posted by jmozz on Monday, July 19, 2004 11:24 PM
Capt. C you are doing pretty good but i agree if that formboard it can't stay outside go to home depot and get some 1/8 plywood and some water proof wood glue and build build build have fun jmozz
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:08 AM
Hi Capt Carrales
If it is foam core board afraid thats internal use only.
You will need ply wood and UV stable plastic for outside use, clay and concrete are other possabilaties.
They are still very nice buildings perhaps a depot in the shed with a bit of scenic modeling
regards john
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:56 AM
Thank you all for your input. Yes, I know that these structures are very temporary, I made them for the same reason that a man climbs a mountain. I wanted to see if I could actually do it, I learned a great deal 'bout construction of this type of structure. Now its on to wood.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 4:02 AM
Hi Capt Carrales
Whats this temporary!!!.
You really should find a good use for them as part of an inside staition and yard or a diorama of some sort
They are far too good to waste and they have passed the most critical and dangerious test you could have given them you took a picture of them and asked our opinion of your efforts[:D]
[soapbox]
regards John
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:07 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by John Busby

Hi Capt Carrales
Whats this temporary!!!.
You really should find a good use for them as part of an inside staition and yard or a diorama of some sort
They are far too good to waste and they have passed the most critical and dangerious test you could have given them you took a picture of them and asked our opinion of your efforts[:D]
[soapbox]
regards John


I think that I can use these structures outdoors, albiet they will have to be brought in. I did an experiment with the "office," I left in in the hot sun all day. There was some slight warping on the roof, however it was slightly warped already.

The warping was the result of the roof not making contact with the walls. On the "warehouse" I have begun a pattern of bracing and truss work within that structure and have mitigated that issue on the second building.

I think that these delicate structures will have to have their condition mitigated by constant vigilant maintenance, no more though than a real building might need.

As for an indoor activity, that is what I will have to set up to provide a useful storage of the structures.

Capt Carrales
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 4, 2004 6:49 PM
Great Job

I like it. I would love to have building skills like that.
I like how you lttered your loco

Nick
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 5, 2004 7:52 PM
Nice looking and well proportioned.

mikadousrp

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