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scratch building a gondola
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 10, 2004 10:32 AM
hi there,
does anyone here no how to attach wheels and axle to a gondola because I can't think of how it can be done!!
thanks,
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Posted by vsmith on Saturday, July 10, 2004 11:05 AM
??????

Need more info please, what are you building and what kind of trucks are you using?

Sounds like you need to add the Bolster to the underframe. but please be more descriptive.[8D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 10, 2004 4:46 PM
hi,
look on my web page at:
http://www.rolo-boy.co.nr/gondolaproject.htm
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Posted by toenailridgesl on Saturday, July 10, 2004 9:29 PM
You need to buy some journals like these
from Ozark Miniatures
http://www.ozarkminiatures.com/
These are the type of journals we are using for the scratch-building class http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18539
Phil Creer, The Toenail Ridge Shortline,  Adelaide Sth Oz http://www.trainweb.org/toenailridge toparo ergo sum
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 11, 2004 3:12 PM
thanks toenailridgesl,
is it possible to get them in the u.k from a uk dealer,
how do they work excactly (where do you put the wheels),
thanks again,
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 11, 2004 3:51 PM
I have a similar question.
Does anyone know how to attach a car directly to the axels rather than the wheels? I am trying to model the rocket sled in the movie "The Great Race" (directed by Blake Edwards).
I've seen the same thing on ore cars. Heres a picture.

Thanks
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Posted by toenailridgesl on Sunday, July 11, 2004 7:52 PM
Scott,
you can buy frame mount journals to do exactly what you want from http://www.ozarkminiatures.com/
Use their search to look for journals, they list slate car journals which are what you need. In effect they are a flat mounting plate to which is attached a tube that the axle goes through, the flat plate is mounted on the bottom of the wagon frame.
ilikelivesteam (Why doesn't anyone use real names on this forum?) the axle ends go into those holes in the middle of the journal. You need to make sure that the frames on which you mount the journals are the correct distance apart or the axle will either fall out or bind. We'll be covering this in the scratch build class.
Phil Creer, The Toenail Ridge Shortline,  Adelaide Sth Oz http://www.trainweb.org/toenailridge toparo ergo sum
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 3:01 PM
Toenailridges,
Are the journals you are talking about 7/8n2 scale?
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, July 12, 2004 3:22 PM
The ones for the scratchbuilding class are for 1/20 to 1/24 scale. However Ozark does produce journals like this in 7/8" scale along with a bunch of other 7/8"scale items like Link & Pin coupler pockets.

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, July 12, 2004 3:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainmaster1989

I have a similar question.
Does anyone know how to attach a car directly to the axels rather than the wheels? I am trying to model the rocket sled in the movie "The Great Race" (directed by Blake Edwards).
I've seen the same thing on ore cars. Heres a picture.

Thanks
Scott


Thought about modeling that rocketsled myself, one day. Maybe next year at the BTS in Long Beach if they have a rocket drag races....

Best I can suggest is to notch out a section of the frame, assuming wood or styrene and use brass tube sleeves slightly bigger than the axle mounted into the notched areas. glued in with a little epoxy, a little light oil to lubricate the bearing and it should run pretty smoothly as long as the axle mounts are square and there isnt too much play in the axle.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 10:27 PM
Vsmith,
I was wondering if anyone else considered the idea.
I'm thinking of powering the sled with a railbuss motorblock but if I decide to push it with a locomotive i would like to know (cover all contingencies[;)])
If 7/8n2 scale is the wrong thing then I would have to say that i can't find the right thing.
So if anyone knows if it's the wrong thing please let me know.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 11:12 PM
Hi train master1989
Cable Clips the little white ones for small round cable and have a nail in one side.
replace nail with small screw and flat washer instant inside axel boxes
we aint fancy but we are cheap[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 12, 2004 11:27 PM
John Busby,
A low cost solution that was right in front of my eyes.
Thanks for the idea.
(What would i do without this forum?[:)])
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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:00 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainmaster1989

Vsmith,
I was wondering if anyone else considered the idea.
I'm thinking of powering the sled with a railbuss motorblock but if I decide to push it with a locomotive i would like to know (cover all contingencies[;)])
If 7/8n2 scale is the wrong thing then I would have to say that i can't find the right thing.
So if anyone knows if it's the wrong thing please let me know.
Thanks,
Scott


Scott I was thinking of using an actual Este's model rocket moter, but only if there is a model train drag race next year at the BTS, otherwise I'll have no place to run it. [:p]

The journals Phil mentioned from Ozark, are probably the right ones to be looking for outside journals, inside bearings will require a sleeve of some sort.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 11, 2004 6:05 PM
Hey Ya'll

Might I suggest LGB wheels. They are great and I have used them as well as their Mogul chassis for my Battery Operated Grand Canyon Express which I bought a KB Toy for $30.00. It was a great deal and it dosen't look half bad.

Nick

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