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How do I add power plick-ups to cars with plastic wheels?

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How do I add power plick-ups to cars with plastic wheels?
Posted by IRB Souther Engineer on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 6:14 PM

How do I add power plick-ups to cars with plastic wheels? I know I need metal wheels, first off.

I would be adding them to some HLW mini's, and I would like to add pick-ups to some tram-like cars I hope to scratch build. someday,( who knows if I'll follow through with that though...)

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Posted by smcgill on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 6:42 PM

After you put the metal wheels on you hook this   

 

Power unit to the back of the wheels!

Part # R2084 $8 +/-

Or you could run a pig tail from the engine to the cars!

Sean

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Posted by altterrain on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 6:45 PM

 Since you'll be swapping out the wheels anyway just swap in a set of ball bearing wheels with power tabs. They are made by Aristo, LGB and these by Train Li / ProLine -

 

 

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Posted by smcgill on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 7:56 PM

Brian  I don't know!!

ProLine: ProWheels with Power Pickup (set of 2 axles)
[TL30-67012]

$39.95

Or    $ 8.oo +/-   and
R2040 Wheels and Axle Set-Solid (2) PAIR 6.95
  $16.00 =/-  Confused

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Posted by Greg Elmassian on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 9:48 PM

 You get what you pay for, less cost = more drag and some maintenance

 More $$ and no drag and no maintenance.

 Life is full of choices  Smile

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Posted by lownote on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:45 AM

Ball bearing wheels are pricey. Plunger pistons add a LOT of drag.

You can  insert a brass bushing into the axle hole in the tender frame--use a piece of brass tube a little bit bigger than the axle. Solder a wire to the brass tube, insert the tube into the sideframe (probably have to drill it out) and then you'll have power pickup if you use uninsulated wheels. Aristo wheels are insulated on one side, and can pick up power on the other side. It's way cheap, and not that hard to do, and it gives you less drag than plungers. I did it to light a set of Bachmann passenger cars. Works as well as plungers with much much less drag

 

Aristocraft will sell you a set of brass bushings, if you don't want to mess with cutting brass tube. You will probably still have to drill out the sideframes a little

 

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Posted by IRB Souther Engineer on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:20 PM

What is the part number for the Aristo wheels (is it 29123B-S )? Do they have the tabs?

Where could I buy those USA trains powerpick-ups? I don't think St. Aubins or Trainworld has them (might be wrong)?

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Posted by smcgill on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:52 PM

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Posted by gtrainman1 on Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:33 AM

Where could I buy those USA trains powerpick-ups? I don't think St. Aubins or Trainworld has them (might be wrong)?

I may have a new set to sell like pictured above from a new caboose take off that I added BB wheels too. I'll look today for the parts. OR you could check and watch Ebay.

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Posted by lownote on Saturday, March 13, 2010 4:40 PM

 

 
gtrainman1

Where could I buy those USA trains powerpick-ups? I don't think St. Aubins or Trainworld has them (might be wrong)?



I think wholesale trains sells those.
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Posted by dwbeckett on Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:18 PM

What do you plan on powering ????

The head is gray, hands don't work , back is weak, legs give out, eyes are gone, money go's and my wife still love's Me.

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Posted by IRB Souther Engineer on Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:23 PM

lownote

 

 
gtrainman1

Where could I buy those USA trains powerpick-ups? I don't think St. Aubins or Trainworld has them (might be wrong)?



I think wholesale trains sells those.

Wholesale trains does sell them.

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Posted by IRB Souther Engineer on Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:35 PM

dwbeckett

What do you plan on powering ????

I would like to build 2 or 3 cars similar to this:

http://gardenrailway.webs.com/coaches.htm

I may add lights, but for sure will add pick ups so I can connect the cars and the loco together (electrically). I will then have the loco's power pick-ups, and all the cars' linked. I should be able to run over dirty track without the lights flickering or the engine stopping and starting. I learned it here: http://www.girr.org/girr/tips/tips3/connector_tips.html .

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Posted by lownote on Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:14 PM

 

George's site is a fantastic resource

The plungers really do add a lot of drag--they work, but the bushing thing in my experience works better

 

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Posted by IRB Souther Engineer on Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:03 AM

lownote

 

George's site is a fantastic resource

The plungers really do add a lot of drag--they work, but the bushing thing in my experience works better

 

Yes I know the cause a lot of drag but I can't afford BB wheels.

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Posted by lownote on Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:16 PM

Sure, BB wheels are ridiculously expensive. But If you do the bushing thing you have power pickup for practically free, and you don't get the drag. 

 

It works with uninsulated wheels--for example, Aristo wheels come with one wheel on each axle not insulated from the track. You put a brass bushing in the sideframe on that side, solder a wire to it, and voila--power pickup. I've used Aristo's brass bushings and also just a piece of brass tube.

 

 

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Posted by g. gage on Sunday, March 14, 2010 5:30 PM

I bought some LGB plunger type pickups years ago (similar to USAT) and put a dab of USAT conductive grease on the plungers. It lowers the friction between plungers and wheels.

 

Also I have metal wheels on all my rolling stock, dirt doesn’t build up on them like plastic wheels, and they keep the track cleaner, the weight lowers the center of gravity on rolling stock.

 

Good luck, Rob  

 

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Posted by IRB Souther Engineer on Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:01 AM

altterrain

 Since you'll be swapping out the wheels anyway just swap in a set of ball bearing wheels with power tabs. They are made by Aristo, LGB and these by Train Li / ProLine -

  

 

-Brian


Just found Gary Raymond wheels, it appears some of them (the BB ones) have those pickup tabs. Do they?

These wheels are one sale in a lot of places so if these are good wheels I will think about them for my trains.

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