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Aristo Rogers 2-4-2 Locomotive & Sound Tender

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Posted by Independent Operator on Saturday, November 8, 2008 6:45 PM

JRB 1953

HI RUDY,

I PURCHASED MINE FROM ST. AUBINS AROUND THREE WEEKS AGO.

TODAY I WENT TO TRAINFEST IN MILWAUKEE, WI AND SPOKE TO A MAN IN THE ARISTO-CRAFT COMPANY BOOTH (POLK'S MODEL CRAFT HOBBIES).  A NUMBER AND PERSON TO ASK FOR WERE GIVEN ME.

NAME-NAVIN

NUMBER 973-351-9800

I PLAN ON CALLING THIS MONDAY.

JOHN

 

John:

Good luck and let us know if they know that some of their merchandise does indeed suck.

I went the role of calling and emailing Wholesale and Aristo before on another item I bought that came in damaged.  Got no where except getting into a sharp email exchange with the guy that owns Aristo.and hate emails with Wholesale. 

RUDY JAGER, CEO OF THE LONE WOLF RAILROAD 

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Posted by Independent Operator on Saturday, November 8, 2008 6:31 PM

altterrain

 I looked at some of the Aristo small wheel sets I have and they appeared to be a touch narrower than others. Its not a problem on my layout but I don't have any LGB switches. If yours look like these -

they are a composite of metal and plastic.To regauge them, you will need to remove the axle tips and the wheels apart. The wheels are attached to plastic half shafts that slip over an inner metal tube shaft. Once you pull one wheel/half shaft off, you can put a small metal or plastic washer(s) over the inner shaft to shim out the wheel. You can get small brass or stainless washers in baggies at the home depot. The steel washers used with pop rivets will probably work, too.

-Brian 

Brian:

That looks like them for sure.  Another issue was I had to really hold my tonge to the left to hold the springs and the contacts in place during the replacement.  Luckily I found them all when they went flying.

The wheels I used for replacements were the generic ones made by Bachmann and others.  Just a little larger in diameter but they did the trick. 

 

RUDY JAGER, CEO OF THE LONE WOLF RAILROAD 

TRUST ME--I USED TO WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT!

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Posted by Independent Operator on Saturday, November 8, 2008 6:31 PM

altterrain

 I looked at some of the Aristo small wheel sets I have and they appeared to be a touch narrower than others. Its not a problem on my layout but I don't have any LGB switches. If yours look like these -

they are a composite of metal and plastic.To regauge them, you will need to remove the axle tips and the wheels apart. The wheels are attached to plastic half shafts that slip over an inner metal tube shaft. Once you pull one wheel/half shaft off, you can put a small metal or plastic washer(s) over the inner shaft to shim out the wheel. You can get small brass or stainless washers in baggies at the home depot. The steel washers used with pop rivets will probably work, too.

-Brian 

Brian:

That looks like them for sure.  Another issue was I had to really hold my tonge to the left to hold the springs and the contacts in place during the replacement.  Luckily I found them all when they went flying.

The wheels I used for replacements were the generic ones made by Bachmann and others.  Just a little larger in diameter but they did the trick. 

 

RUDY JAGER, CEO OF THE LONE WOLF RAILROAD 

TRUST ME--I USED TO WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT!

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Posted by Independent Operator on Saturday, November 8, 2008 6:25 PM

altterrain

 I looked at some of the Aristo small wheel sets I have and they appeared to be a touch narrower than others. Its not a problem on my layout but I don't have any LGB switches. If yours look like these -

they are a composite of metal and plastic.To regauge them, you will need to remove the axle tips and the wheels apart. The wheels are attached to plastic half shafts that slip over an inner metal tube shaft. Once you pull one wheel/half shaft off, you can put a small metal or plastic washer(s) over the inner shaft to shim out the wheel. You can get small brass or stainless washers in baggies at the home depot. The steel washers used with pop rivets will probably work, too.

-Brian 

altterrain

 I looked at some of the Aristo small wheel sets I have and they appeared to be a touch narrower than others. Its not a problem on my layout but I don't have any LGB switches. If yours look like these -

they are a composite of metal and plastic.To regauge them, you will need to remove the axle tips and the wheels apart. The wheels are attached to plastic half shafts that slip over an inner metal tube shaft. Once you pull one wheel/half shaft off, you can put a small metal or plastic washer(s) over the inner shaft to shim out the wheel. You can get small brass or stainless washers in baggies at the home depot. The steel washers used with pop rivets will probably work, too.

-Brian 

RUDY JAGER, CEO OF THE LONE WOLF RAILROAD 

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Posted by JRB 1953 on Saturday, November 8, 2008 1:45 PM

HI RUDY,

I PURCHASED MINE FROM ST. AUBINS AROUND THREE WEEKS AGO.

TODAY I WENT TO TRAINFEST IN MILWAUKEE, WI AND SPOKE TO A MAN IN THE ARISTO-CRAFT COMPANY BOOTH (POLK'S MODEL CRAFT HOBBIES).  A NUMBER AND PERSON TO ASK FOR WERE GIVEN ME.

NAME-NAVIN

NUMBER 973-351-9800

I PLAN ON CALLING THIS MONDAY.

JOHN

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Posted by altterrain on Saturday, November 8, 2008 10:20 AM

 I looked at some of the Aristo small wheel sets I have and they appeared to be a touch narrower than others. Its not a problem on my layout but I don't have any LGB switches. If yours look like these -

they are a composite of metal and plastic.To regauge them, you will need to remove the axle tips and the wheels apart. The wheels are attached to plastic half shafts that slip over an inner metal tube shaft. Once you pull one wheel/half shaft off, you can put a small metal or plastic washer(s) over the inner shaft to shim out the wheel. You can get small brass or stainless washers in baggies at the home depot. The steel washers used with pop rivets will probably work, too.

-Brian 

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Posted by Independent Operator on Saturday, November 8, 2008 4:56 AM

JRB 1953

YES, I'M HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM.

JRB 1953

Did you by any chance buy it from WholesaleTrains aka Lantz's Hobby Shop.on line?

 

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Posted by DannyS on Saturday, November 8, 2008 12:33 AM

 I have an original Delton Rogers 2-4-2, purchased on e-bay, never given me one ounce of trouble, and it must be over 20 years old.

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Posted by JRB 1953 on Friday, November 7, 2008 9:35 PM

YES, I'M HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM.

JRB 1953

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Posted by Independent Operator on Friday, November 7, 2008 8:08 PM

I already got em going with other wheels.  I'll keet these hints on hand for next time thouh.

 

I was just wondering if I'm the only one that bought two with this problem.

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Posted by dwbeckett on Thursday, November 6, 2008 10:06 AM

altterrain

 The pilot wheels were probably just a bit out of gauge out of the factory (most likely too narrow). If so, its an easy 5 min. fix.

-Brian 

Rudy, remove the pilot truck's, place in a small vice, tap on one end with a small hammer, check with a track gauge IF you have one, if not try going through a switch,  replace wheels .CHEAP & EASY

You can make wheel gauge from a anything wider then 60mm, just make your cut's 45mm apart and no more then 1/8 wide , a chunk of 1x2 3inch's long shoud work, use a piece of track for cutting template. Or send me an E-Mail with your number and we will talk.

Dave

 

The head is gray, hands don't work , back is weak, legs give out, eyes are gone, money go's and my wife still love's Me.

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Posted by Independent Operator on Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:07 PM

cacole

Jinxed?  Probably not.  But did you check the wheel gauge of the pilot truck?  Assuming that the wheels derail because they are plastic and too light, have you tried adding weight?  Contact Aristo and see what they say about the problem.  Maybe they'll send a free replacement pilot truck or tell you how to correct the problem.

The wheels are metal as they conduct electricty to the loco.

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Posted by cacole on Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:33 AM

Jinxed?  Probably not.  But did you check the wheel gauge of the pilot truck?  Assuming that the wheels derail because they are plastic and too light, have you tried adding weight?  Contact Aristo and see what they say about the problem.  Maybe they'll send a free replacement pilot truck or tell you how to correct the problem.

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Posted by altterrain on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:06 PM

 The pilot wheels were probably just a bit out of gauge out of the factory (most likely too narrow). If so, its an easy 5 min. fix.

-Brian 

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Aristo Rogers 2-4-2 Locomotive & Sound Tender
Posted by Independent Operator on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:19 PM

Sometime back, actually a couple of sometimes back I bought online from one of the big dealers two of these babies with different roadnames.  Obviously from different lots so the problems I had should not have happened twice.  I put the first one on the track say about eight months ago.  The pilot wheels would not stay on track on my LGB switches.  Finally changed out both metal pilot wheels with two of the generic ones I had in my parts box and that did the trick.  Stayed on track through the switches no matter what.

Thinking that this had to be a one of a kind fluke I put the other one on the track Sunday.  Same exact problem.  Thats the last one I'll ever buy of them.

Has anyone else had this problem with this engine or am I jinxed? 

 

RUDY JAGER, CEO OF THE LONE WOLF RAILROAD 

TRUST ME--I USED TO WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT!

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