Well I have looked online and havent been able to find a depot to my liking so I want to try and build one... I want to build a model of the RGS Dolores depot somewhere between 1:20 and 1:22. No idea where to start, been looking at lots of photos of the depot online and in books
I was thinking to start maybe build it out of cut up cardboard boxes and then use that to get all the measurements to make it out of wood
Brian:
If you have a nice "square on" photo of the structure than do the following. For 1:20 scale, resize the picture until the freight door is 4.5 inches tall. For 1:22 resize the picture until the freight door is 4.0909 inches tall {call it an even 4 inches}. When you print these "plans" they will be to actual size you need for your GRR. Unfortunately, they will print on multiple pages so you will need to do some "cut and paste" to form a single page.
If your picture is not "square on" (as is the case most of the time) then you will need to do a bunch of "fudge factoring" on the sizes.
The most important thing either way is to end up with something you like and that will fit in the available space.
Tom Trigg
ttrigg wrote: then you will need to do a bunch of "fudge factoring" on the sizes.
then you will need to do a bunch of "fudge factoring" on the sizes.
Would never thought Triggy to do that...
Trigg, still have nice RR dude!
Toad
Have you tried Ghostdepot.com?
http://www.ghostdepot.com/rg/dvd.htm
they have the best single source of plans and drawing for all thing Colorado.
Of course you could always try my next station project
Have fun with your trains
And next you will be building the Toonerville trolly, to go with the station.
Dave
The head is gray, hands don't work , back is weak, legs give out, eyes are gone, money go's and my wife still love's Me.
Dont need to, already got a Casey Jr just need to fill out the rest of the microlayout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r3zG54EW1M
wow I didnt know about that DVD from Ghostdepot.com I NEED to get that
ttrigg thats a great idea! I havent found many pictures like that though most are on an angle, I wish I took more photos when I was in Colorado! I didnt know what depot I wanted to model then so I was just taking a few pictures of all the ones I came across. Im mostly looking at what pictures I can find and trying to judge the hight by other objects in the picture near the depot like people, car's, train's ext
ToadFrog WhiteLightn wrote: ttrigg wrote: then you will need to do a bunch of "fudge factoring" on the sizes. Would never thought Triggy to do that... Trigg, still have nice RR dude! Toad
Toad: I freely admit and proudly proclaim that all of the rulers I use for constructing (and puirchasing) items for Rosebud Falls Scenic Railways are completely made of rubber! Gummi Rulers allow for everything I like the looks of to fit precisely. I have never been accused of being a "rivit counter." Rivit couters have their place and I admire their adheasion to scale. I'm in this just for the fun of it.
Do I still have a nice RR you ask, I think so, have not had time to look at the last two months, what with all the mileage to and from the hospitial. Had my mech do some work on my truck three weeks ago, and have only had time to pay him, not yet time to pick up my truck. Maybe I'll have time to get the truck and run a train this weekend. Thank the lord for Wal~Mart Health Insurance, They are spending just over $4,500 a day to keep her alive. My out of pocket costs $3.15 per day. Don't beleive those horror stories you hear about "Wally World" Pay (like ALL retail pay) is not the best in the world, but the benifits package cannot be beat!
Hi Vic
Is there a drawing or paper model of that on line some where tried looking but could not find one.
regards John Busby
Mr. Ash,
I have many plans and I think I have that one you speak of.
You will have to get a person to size it up on a photocopyer.
This plan I am thinking of is not for the fait at heart!!!!!
I have so many I will have to look around here and find it. I have 2 file cabinets full of plans. 36 tubes with full drawings. Just let me take my time to look and get back with you.
Found the plans now I have to get them copied off.
Email me off the Fourm so I can get your address and such.
And yes, it is the Dolores Depot!
Wake up Mr. Ash!!!!!
Here and now is the time to get the drawings of the depot!!!!
I have copys now and can ship to you. Do you want them or do you want to back down????
Scale is in 1:64 in the drawings which you will need to boost the copyer to 208%.
Remember to make more than one copy in 1:64 scale just in case.
I will be waiting on your email with name and address.
See Rene, I am not such a bad guy.
Ok, spent:
and you never emailed me or even been on the board like you have been??? What gives??? I have the plans now any one can email me for them or there in the trash.
Sorry Toad was out of town, I just sent you an email
You might try this: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=c103c513561aa4fefa43264734c34460
Ash,
Your drawings are in the mail today. Remember there S scale but you need to put some together because the copier I used was only 11"X17" (I think) paper and was all I could do but when you do get them just cut excess paper off and tape it then go to Kinkos or any large Office Supply and they can do them on one sheet like construction drawings which sould be enought for a templet or how ever you want to use it.
WOW Toad you realy can be nice.
Dave ( Pop's to Toad )
dwbeckett WOW Toad you realy can be nice. Dave ( Pop's to Toad )
Pops,
Yeah missed the Christmas where I was giving away stuff and all you had to do was put your name on the thread. GRM did not like it cause it was against the law here but I was just spreading cheer myself. Then there was a man from Down Under who needed a cog train and so several members checked around then I bought it and sent it to him, then he sent me my money back. All he needed was contacts, was all and now he has a LGB cog train! And last this Depot and I have more from that RR. but it was nothing.
That is what really what Garden Railwayn is about helping others out not just for money but to improve there layout and yours, because you never know when you get in a rut and need help.
There are people who will rip you off thou!
TheJoat You might try this: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=c103c513561aa4fefa43264734c34460
Joat,
Now you got Ole Toad by the back leg, which is the best viewer for the .DAE files?
Hows that depot coming?
If your photo is not "square on" you can do this. If you've got a drawing program, import the photo, then either trace over the image, or some programs have a "save as a line drawing" feature.
Your resulting line drawing will be in perspective, same as the photo. But you can grab all the lines to make the top and bottom of the wall parallel. This should straighten out the windows as well, but you may have a problem about their size.
With the top and bottom of the wall parallel, make a door the size you need by resizing the entire picture (line drawing). Now you've got a view of the wall with the door the right size, and you should be able to measure everything off the drawing.
You may still have to fudge the windows to a rational size. They should be in one foot increments, so you can adjust a window that figures out to 4' 2" by 6'1" to 4 by 6. Or you can just eyeball the dimensions to what looks good.
Yo! You building the Depot?
no real construction progress to speak of im working 6 days a week and the last two weeks I have been working on finishing detailing my Bachmann D&RGW coaches & combine they are a project I started like a year ago but kept getting side tracked with other stuff.
I dont think I will be starting construction on the depot untill January I have alot of material I need to get for it first plus I have alot going on through the end of the year with work, holidays & trips, Im going back to Indiana next week for a few days and mid December Im taking the train to Denver to spend a week with my mom then theres my nephew's and both my sister's birthdays and im sure shoveling snow lol I hate this time of year!
Take your time, work at YOUR own pace, You will like the end results better. Don't forget all the GOOD place's to see in and around Denver. Lot's of good shoping too. I lived in that area from 84-90 and my wife has family there.
I was browsing the Sketchup site and saw that too. Sketchup is a free download and has a cool feature where you pick points on a photo and basically trace it. You will need a dimension to get is to print to scale and I don't know if the doors were standard 80" that homes use today. Eight foot doors for depots was common then (and now) but use a passenger for scale. Most people were shorter back then except for us Scandanavians!
Neil
I have built a number of G scale buildings both for indoor and outdoor use.
A useful trick I have used a lot when I'm not totally certain of the dimensions or how the final product will look is to buid a "study model" first. These are typically built of 3/16" foamcore board available at most arts and crafts supply stores. Hobby Lobby often has it on sale. I cut this into walls and roof pieces, then carefully tape them together using 1 1/2" masking tape. I'll photocopy my walls full size, cut them out and using spray adhesive, glue them onto the foamcore building. Occasionally I"ll even colors these photocopy pictures to see how the color scheme looks too. A building like this takes only a couple of hours at most from start to finish, and is cheap and expendable. My experience has frequently been that what looked good as a plan will not turn out as I had hoped; this method saves me a disappointment after many hours/days/weeks of work and a lot of $$$ in materials. A study model is exactly that, not the final finished product. Don't get too fancy or be afraid to make as many changes as you want to acheive the look and feel of what you really want. Then use that final edition as the basis for the final plans; determining wall and roof sizes/heights and locations of doors/windows when you go to use the good materials.
Good luck! ........mike
Along the lines of the original question, don't forget that there are books on the market giving the structural standards of various railroads. I had one on standards of the Pennsy (Loaned it out and never saw i again), and it showed a standard design for about 6 passenger stations for different sized markets along with equipment sheds, freight stations, even down to the lettering for official railroad signage! If one of these is available for the particular railroad you want to model it should be invaluable to the scratchbuilder.
John Busby Hi Vic Is there a drawing or paper model of that on line some where tried looking but could not find one. regards John Busby
Sorry for the late reply, havent checked this topic for a while
No, sorry, all I have is the single picture. It was a limited edition Disney collectable somewhere in the 1/24 scale vicinity. I've read that some Disney books have line drawings of the original Frontierland structure which only existed for a couple years before being replaced by a larger structure that was an almost direct copy of Ward Kimballs Grizzly Flats station, which ironicly was a relocated stage set from a Disney movie set.Thats the station there today.
Is this something like what you were looking for? It is an HO scale kit that would be interesting to scale up. I could do a quick sketch of the footprint, front and maybe one side pretty quickly if you are serious.
Not quite as fanciful as the other but ...
I also found this pic and a neat little site:
http://www.gfrr.com/1intro.html
Check out the height of the doors and windows!
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