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LGB 2020/2 locomotive
Posted by Tim in Chester on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:05 PM

I have inherited an LGB starter set with a Stainz 2020/2 locomotive. I would like to get inside, but can't get it opened. Some earlier forum postings gave links to sites which might have info, but they all seem to have disappeared from the web. Can anyone sent me a current link or a quick hint as to what holds this thing together?

Thanks, I'm an excited newbie who has stuff from a company who has forgotten about us?

Tim

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Posted by MRH044 on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:23 PM

Welcome!  

What do you need to get to??  Are you only trying to clean the gears, or do you need to get to the motor, or just the cab?  Screws hold everything together.  Give us the details and we can surely help you out.   Michael

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Posted by Tim in Chester on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:39 PM

Hi Michael

Thanks for the note. I am actually most interested in finding electrical contacts to which I can attach a smoking stack which I bought off the internet. It is a metal shaft with a small contact at the center of the threading on the bottom of the shaft.

Thanks again for any help you can provide.

Regards

Tim

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Posted by MRH044 on Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:24 PM
  Is it an LGB smoke unit? They should have pretty good instructions on how to install the unit. If you don't have any instructions, I think I have a spare in my shop so I can look it up for you. I will also try to find a parts diagram for the Stainz showing how to take one apart. I will post sometime over the weekend when I get some free time to find the stuff. Take care,  Michael

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2008 4:38 AM

Photos are great for some of us. Is like driving a nail into the wood in the dark while holding it.

Toad

 

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Posted by Tim in Chester on Friday, September 12, 2008 8:13 AM

Hi Michael

Yes, it is an LGB smoke unit (part # 65203 / LGB 2020-3 Funnel Smoke Stack w/ Smoke Generator). It came in a plastic bag with an LGB label in English and German and a small tube of smoke fluid inside, but no instructions or or details on how to use or install it.

Any insight you can give me will be great. I really appreciate it (and I'm sure the kids will get a charge out of a smoking engine).

Thanks again,

Tim

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Posted by piercedan on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:48 AM

The 2020 I believe is a split case loco.

You only have to remove the bottom of the engine and add a wire to the front of the motor block.

 The smoke stack holds the front together, just turn the stack to remove it, the nut is held in place on the bottom by the mold in the plastic.

There is a screw in the rear on the side that must be removed.  This screw insures electrical contact for the lights and rear sockets.

Other hardware must be removed, but all this is done on the bottom only.

 There are instructions for adding smoke units, and there were 2 different kits.  One kit had the smoke stack only (yours) and the other kit had the stack, yellow wire, screw, washer, copper contact for the outer side of the stack, and instructions.

 I can e-mail you the instruction sheet in a picture format to assist your install.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Tim in Chester on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:17 PM

Dan

Thanks for the info. I received your photo and spec sheets. This information will get me going again. I'll save them for my files.

Please understand how much the information that you folks provide to us helps. I love the LGB stuff, but the situation and lack of information at the present time makes me very frustrated.

A million thanks for your insight and time.

Regards, Tim

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Posted by MRH044 on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:53 PM

Tim,

Sorry that I did not get back to you over the weekend. I thought for sure I had a parts diagram for the Stainz but I can't seem to find it. Thankfully, someone else already answered your question. As for LGB, it is a shame they are gone. I love the product and it irritates me that information and parts are so difficult to come by. If you ever need to get into a mogul, forney, mallet, or alco, let me know.

Some advice for taking the loco apart:

1. Clear off work area. This way loose parts such as screws won't disappear.

2. Put some pieces of masking tape down on the work bench. After you take off the screws from a specific area (like for example the cab), place the screws in a container. I use fruit cups because they are cheap and readily available. Plus, you get a nice snack from them. :-) Once you have all the screws from the cab in the container, place the cup above the masking tape. In pen, write where these parts should go on the tape. Make the description something easy that you WILL remember.

"Cab screws,"  "Motor Block,"  "Forward Light," are all examples. When I did a complete overhaul on a mogul, I must have had twenty different cups because of the number of parts.

3. Another good tip is to take pictures. If you have easy access to a digital camera, take pictures of how the engine looks before you take it apart. These pictures can always be deleted later. Even though you think you will remember, there is a good chance that you will not. When I remove connections from a circuit board, I make sure each wire is a different color and that I have multiple pictures to reference when I put the thing back together.

 That is pretty much all I can think of for now. Good luck with your project and be sure to post a reply of how it worked out for you.       Michael

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Posted by MRH044 on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:05 PM

Picture of circuit board. I can easily identify where all the wires are supposed to go. This saves a lot of hassle down the road.

 

Here is another picture of the circuit board. Above it, you can see the masking tape with some of my notes on it.

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