Indoor Layouts

[Anonymous]

Hi, I am new to this forum and am interested in large scale indoor layouts. I am asking about those here because "Garden Railways" has had features in the past,notably Joe Crea. Yes I do realise that indoors is not in the Garden!
I tried typing in "indoor" in the search box but nothing helpful came up. Can any of you good folk tell me where,if anywhere, to look on this forum
THANKS Peter aka Chippie[:D]

[monkeyman2]

Well a indoor Garden railway is kinda like a supersized HO one... :D. Same Basic's just much bigger.

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chippie

Hi, I am new to this forum and am interested in large scale indoor layouts. I am asking about those here because "Garden Railways" has had features in the past,notably Joe Crea. Yes I do realise that indoors is not in the Garden!
I tried typing in "indoor" in the search box but nothing helpful came up. Can any of you good folk tell me where,if anywhere, to look on this forum
THANKS Peter aka Chippie[:D]

What type of info are you after??

[Anonymous]

Try Vsmith's "saga of the ever shrinking railroad" he's our indoor guy around here along with Torby. If I left someone out sorry.

[vsmith]

Hello Chippie, welcome to the forum.

I'm indoors also and Joe Crea and Malcolm furlow are my hero's
What info are you looking for? I'm always happy to help.
my layouts history and its current slow progress is listed under "the saga of my ever shrinking railroad" here's the link
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16963

Vic

[vsmith]

Chippie

Did you try e-mailing me?

Let me know here if you did, having some issues with dial-up.

[Anonymous]

No,have not e-mailed "vsmith",so far.
I have seen two articles by Joe Crea who is to blame for all this.In Garden Railways and also Model Railroader. Have seen one by Malcolm Furlow, although a bit complicated for me. Also Ron(nie) Davis. Also have some of Ronnie's pix downloaded from "Readers Photos" from a mag/website I have forgotten name of for the moment. Looking for sites showing Indoor Layouts,Like the following
http://www.wcr.co.uk/garage0.htm
Recent Construction Series in Model Railroader too Mickey Mouse really.
I would have space around the edge,perhaps 2ft wide, of my garage which is about 17ftx 9ft.
Incidentally am finding this website/forum v.slow to load.
Thanks to all for replies so far

[vsmith]

Have you checked out Carl Arendt's micro-layout site, this is an excellent site for help in planning large-scale indoor layouts. Most of the layouts are smaller scale but just about everything is still applicable to large scale.

www.carendt.com

Check out the layout gallery and be sure to read thru the monthly scrapbooks[:D]

[John Busby]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chippie

No,have not e-mailed "vsmith",so far.
I have seen two articles by Joe Crea who is to blame for all this.In Garden Railways and also Model Railroader. Have seen one by Malcolm Furlow, although a bit complicated for me. Also Ron(nie) Davis. Also have some of Ronnie's pix downloaded from "Readers Photos" from a mag/website I have forgotten name of for the moment. Looking for sites showing Indoor Layouts,Like the following
http://www.wcr.co.uk/garage0.htm
Recent Construction Series in Model Railroader too Mickey Mouse really.
I would have space around the edge,perhaps 2ft wide, of my garage which is about 17ftx 9ft.
Incidentally am finding this website/forum v.slow to load.
Thanks to all for replies so far

If you can get it get Greenberg publications
Model railroading with LGB by Robert Schleicher
This also includes a chapter where the some what strange to me
concept of the garage? basement floor becomes the base board.
But I would however lay 1/2" ply on the floor and build off of that
rather than the floor less damaging to the property value.
And if you move the layout if carefully thought out can go with you.
Looks like the great indoors is taken care of any plans for the great out doors[:D]
regards John

[Anonymous]

John,Thank you for your post-however.
The idea is not to pretend that the garage floor is a garden/yard indoors,but to have a large scale layout around the wall about 4ft to 4ft6in above floor level similar to any other model railroad. The difference is the larger scale which brings constraints on how much can be modelled.
At the moment my garden (yard) is not suitable for an outdoor layout since it is a formal affair inside an old 19th century brick wall.It is the pride and joy of the domestic manager.

[Anonymous]

Thank you to vsmith for the Arendt link.

[Anonymous]

Victor,
Why did you not tell me about the "Large Scale" Forum?[8)]
I see from that forum that you regard your garage space of 20x81/2 to be a Micro layout.All is clear about the Arendt link now. Before, I would not have considered my 17x9 garage to be Micro but in relation to some garden layouts I suppose it is.

[John Busby]

Hi chippie
I agree not a good idea to mess with SWMBO's pride and joy
that could lead to much unpleasantness.
It was the method of construction on one of the layouts in the book.
That struck me as an unusual way to build an otherwise conventional style
indoor railway.
You start at Floor level and go upwards also using space that would
otherwise be empty space under a conventional base board hence the thought of laying ply wood sheets on the floor
The way it looked the supports seemed to be a bit spidery..
Think upside down bench work supporting scenery that goes from the floor too well above track bed level.
Does that make a bit more sense of what I am not doing a great job of trying to explain.
regards John

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chippie

Victor,
Why did you not tell me about the "Large Scale" Forum?[8)]
I see from that forum that you regard your garage space of 20x81/2 to be a Micro layout.All is clear about the Arendt link now. Before, I would not have considered my 17x9 garage to be Micro but in relation to some garden layouts I suppose it is.

Sorry Chippie[:I]

I usually assume most start on the General Discussion forum and then move down to these other forums[:o)]

Yes. I consider mine to be more of a micro. If I took the 5' x 7' loop area and converted it down to HOn30 for example, it would only be about 18"x 30", the overall layout reduced in scale would very much be a micro-layout.

Sure you can't get an outdoor loop also? My outside layout is TINY, only 5' x 9' but includes a passing siding and 2 spurs. Carls website helps alot in planning for tight spaces. The progress of my layout is shown in the evolution of planning on my thread. It took a long time for me to finetune a workable layout, but thats just the way I am.[;)]

[Anonymous]

I gotcha now,Victor.Good idea : plan small scale micro layout then scale up!
[:)][:)]

[Anonymous]

Hi
This is my fist post and all the questions that I was going to asked were answer here. Thanks.
afranklin