New LGB club

[Curmudgeon]

Plus, I hate flies, and mosquitoes, so we do everything to PREVENT attracting such!

Cigars help when you're outta vinegar....

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jfmccolgan


I simply don't understand those who don't like LGB or don't want to join the club (for whatever reason) taking pleasure out of telling the world about what they perceive to be wrong with LGB (or Aristo or Bachmann or whatever).

Jerry

I for one LOVE LGBs stuff , I just can't afford alot of it. But that doesnt mean I'm kicking it. I would like to point out that while my post was sarcastic about the benifits, it was taken from a realistic viewpoint of cost-vs-benifits for me. Considering that 60% of my stuff is non-LGB but Bachmann, HLW, or MDC, and that the LGB products that I do have is limited to Porters, Cowtrains, and Stainzs, would the cost of $56 for an organization thats likely be much more oriented towards the Swiss and German RR prototypes that ARE the majority of LGB's products be a worthy investment for me? I came to the conclusion that NO it wouldnt be. [V]

Personally I have nothing againt LGB. I wish I could buy more of the big ticket items but thats just not going to happen short of 6 lucky numbers on a lotto ticket. [:o)]

Where I have had problems is with some users and sellers of LGB and their attitude of "its LGB or Nothing, everything else is [censored]", the Red Box Brigade, Not all users or sellers are this way but I have encountered enough to be wary at dealers and to watch my P's and Q's at LGB only booths at shows. Early on in my Newbie days I had been given a hard time for liking Bachmann, so far as getting really PO'd at a guy who gave me a hard time for even thinking of buying a Bachmann Porter (which I did and never had a problem with) and just couldnt understand WHY I didn't want an LGB Mogul instead (something about the $75 Porter -vs- the $750 Mogul just didnt register in his head). [:0]

So my comments were not about LGB as an organizing element of this new club, it was a factoring in of what past experiences with exclusive users has been like and how that would translate into a club and forum atmosphere. I was not a pretty picture in my minds eye. I could foresee it becoming just like the Aristo forum where ANY mention however small to ANY non-product would be deleted or shunned and the thought of that just didnt appeal to me, at least not at having to pay $56 bucks.[;)]

Maybe I'm wrong, time will tell. Once its up and if I can access the forum and read the tenor of the postings maybe I'll change my opinion and join, but they are going to have to convince me of its worth. I came from HO, where NOBODY runs a single manufacturer exclusivley. Its many makers , many products all mixed together, thats why I find the ferocity of some LGB users so puzzling. I guess its a carryover from the pre Delton/Kalamazoo days when LGB was the only pond in large scale to swim in, but I came into it when there already were several manufacturers all with good products to offer. I like the diversity of offerings in large scale today and look forward to more in the future. I guess I'm too multi-cultural to join just one religion[8D]

[Capt Bob Johnson]

I think Vic's got it! In my experiance 99% LGBers are a religious cult! They don't want to hear, see, or have anything to do with it if it isn't LGB! You don't run LGB, You might just as well be floating in the terlet (Archie Bunker)!

I think that the vaunted reliability is debateable, however, for my taste, even thier renderings of American prototypes have a distinctly European flavor; and that in itself creates a distaste for the product in my eye! That is a purely personal observation and opinion; one that is open to change when I percieve change in the way the product strikes me!

Now, getting back to the subject matter; even if I were enamoured of LGB, at those $$$ for what is offered I would pass!

[Curmudgeon]

OhGawd, now you've done it.
Wait until the High Priest wakes up in Oz and starts in on ya.
We'd best get to the shelters.

TOC

[tangerine-jack]

There is nothing wrong with LGB, except the price. There is also nothing wrong with Aristo-craft, of which I have a great deal and to date have nothing but good things to say about it and had zero problems. I also have B'mann locos and cars, also nothing bad to say, zero problems. If I were to afford LGB, I'm sure I would have nothing bad to say and zero problems, only an empty bank account to show for it.

Bravo, Vic, you said it better than I could, it's the tenor of the users, not the product itself. I'll save my $56.00 and buy some nice Aritso-craft or B'mann cars. The LGB club is certainly one of those niche markets, you either support it or you don't. Personaly I won't support it because it does nothing for me, but I won't bad mouth anybody who does, in fact, I say go for it, join up and enjoy your product!


[oX)]

[RhB_HJ]

This just off the wire from a friend of mine:

QUOTE: Dear LGB Friend,

Thanks for your interest in our new, worldwide LGB Club and our LGB
Festival
to
be held in July 2006!

Now, you can find more information about both at www.lgb.com. Just
click on the "LGB Club" button, and you'll find downloadable flyers with information about the LGB Club and LGB Festival. (To read the flyers, you'll need Adobe Acrobat Reader 5.0 or later, which is available free at www.adobe.com.)

We've also attached an LGB Club registration form for you. Just complete the
form and send it to the appropriate address below:

in North America
LGB Club
c/o LGB of America
6444 Nancy Ridge Drive
San Diego, CA 92121

in Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia and South America
LGB Club
Ernst Paul Lehmann Patentwerk
Saganer Strasse 1-5
D-90475 Nürnberg
GERMANY

The new club officially begins operation in January 2006. Memberships
are offered on a calendar-year basis, and new memberships take effect at
the beginning of the next full quarter (with a pro-rated fee). So we
encourage you to send in your registration form now to get the full benefits of a
2006 membership! If you have questions, please feel free to contact us.

We look forward to seeing you as a member of the LGB Club and at our
LGB Festival!

Sincerely,


Heiner Groh
Ernst Paul Lehmann Patentwerk
LGB Club Representative (Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, South
America)
[e-mail]
[phone]


Jack Lynch
LGB of America
LGB Club Representative (North America)
[e-mail]
[phone]

As you can see Jack Lynch (on this and other boards kown as "Bucksco") is also the LGB Club Representative for North America; Jack's full time job is Marketing Manager at LGBoA.
Which may shed a bit more light on some of the recent exchanges on subjects concerning LGBoA and/or LGB and/or the "Depesche" etc. etc.

[Anonymous]

HJ,

Yup, I received the same email yesterday

[RhB_HJ]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Dave Snow

HJ,

Yup, I received the same email yesterday

Hey Dave, [;)][;)]

But not from my friend, did you?[:I][:I]

He passed it on to me since he figured that I wanted to sign-up right way (if not sooner) [:D][:D].
I also received the same stuff from LGB in Nürnberg via snail mail, together with what is new and exciting and available apart from the previous announcements.
Well, there was nothing there fitting my requirements, but I appreciate getting the stuff. Perhaps there will be some more RhB stuff soon, that fits my era and line.

[Anonymous]

Mine came from [e-mail]

[grandpopswalt]

I guess I just don’t get it. I’ve never been able to understand the concept of “brand loyalty”. Brand preference, yes, but loyalty? It’s not limited to toy trains either. Consider the PC vs. Mac wars or Windows vs. UNIX or Chevy vs. Ford or Marines vs. Navy ……………… you can fill in the blanks. Are we so desperate to belong to some group, any group, that so many of us are drawn into this cult mentality? And along with this absurd infatuation comes a hatred of the opposing product or group. How in the hell can someone HATE an inanimate object like a car or operating system?

My advice to these folks is, get a life. Look around and find something that’s worthy of your loyalty like a religion or political party. And even there be careful of the zealots who will try to convince you that theirs is the ONLY way, because it’s not. The answer to most differing viewpoints is somewhere in the middle.

But be wary of my advice as well because it’s coming from someone who uses both PC’s and Mac’s, owns three different brands of cars, is agnostic, is a registered independent voter, and listens to both Rush and Air America (Rush is a conservative talk show host and Air America is a liberal radio station).

Walt

[Curmudgeon]

A political Party is worth someone's LOYALTY?

Walt, what planet do you live on again?

I have brand loyalty to Ford, as all I personally drive are Flatheads.
And they don't let me down.
Sam Colt, same thing, in an ACP.

Sometimes one's feelings toward a product haven't got as much to do with it as one's feelings towards the Head of the Company or marketing practices, good or bad.

[grandpopswalt]

TOC,

Maybe you're right but here on my planet we value ideas and principles above things.
I'm not endorsing one party or the other but I can see getting passionate about a political party's agenda if it reflects your own views and values. However here on planet X we just cannot get all moist over a car or a gun.

Walt