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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 7:15 PM
Marty, just for good measure while wearing your speedo and holding your train have your picture taken on a real cold day and stick your tongue to the Cayon bridge[:p][:0][:D]
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Posted by Marty Cozad on Monday, January 3, 2005 10:00 PM
STICK my ,,,,,tongue,,,MY Tongue on the bridge????????

I agree with Ian, this thread is done,,,over ,,as in I'm out of here.
My mind is going the wrong way.
Long live garden railways!!!!!!!!

Is it REAL? or Just 1:29 scale?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2005 10:42 PM
Allright thats one NO from Troy on Marty showing more thigh in his photos

I'll second it!

Due I here a third?
One more to carry the motion,Mrs. Cozad's vote will not be counted[:D]
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Posted by Curmudgeon on Monday, January 3, 2005 11:14 PM
See, Marty?
I try to guide you in the path of righteousness, and you fall off the wagon.
Geez.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 1:11 PM
There seems to be two completely different issues or objectives here--I think. One is to grow the magazine, the other is to grow the hobby. While they are complimentary, they aren't exactly the same.

Increased distribution of the magazine is one way to increase exposure of the hobby to the general public, but a) it may not be the most effective way, and b) exposure to the general public may have little benefit to expanding the market. For example, I find it hard to believe the Average Joe at the Walmart magazine rack is part of the large scale market.

Printed magazines are great, I truly enjoy browsing them, and I like to see their success. Their main function is to sell advertising, and their circulation determines, in part, what they can charge for that advertising. But, as a means of conveying useful information, they are extremely inefficient. First, the sheer volume of information they contain is extremely small, and second, the ability to search, retrieve and reuse that information is nil. I believe most topic-specific magazines are best at generating excitement and entertaining--and that's very important. But once you've gotten engaged in the topic area, the need to access and 'consume' information (even if its product and availability information) far surpasses the capacity of any printed magazine. Also, as an aside, by far the worst business-to-consumer web sites are those that attempt to do little more than emulate magazine adverts!

As far as growing the magazine, unless your income is tied to sales of the magazine (either because you buy or sell advertising), why is that important to you?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 4:39 PM
This is maddness....one someone mentions sticking tounges to bridges a crucial line has been crossed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 4:52 PM
I'm pretty sure I'd rather lick the bridge than attempt to smuggle a "budgie" in the manner discribed...... (This Parrot is Expired!) .

Sell more magazines? Get more out to the general public, not just the hobby shop crowd, why spend time preaching to the choir?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 8:25 PM
GR needs to get there suppliers to stock garden centers to bring non train nuts into the hobby and then make them nuts[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 11:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Capt Carrales

This is maddness....[when] someone mentions sticking tongues to bridges a crucial line has been crossed.
Yes...certainly in the general context of 'budgie smugglers'. The whole thing just doesn't work for me. Locomotives, gardening, 'nubile' young things and Spandex just seems simply...wrong. This is out of control, and I think we have Marty to blame for the whole spectacle.[;)]

...and those poor, poor budgies! My God man! It's just terrible.
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Posted by TurboOne on Thursday, January 6, 2005 12:27 AM
Hey Marty, good tongue in cheek, great sense of humor. The pic of you is ok, kids would be better. The over the shoulder pick is great, can you send larger file, I would love to print and take to the rr club. Marty has the right idea, exposure, (yes its a pun) will make our hobby grow larger. Bring the new folks in with Thomas the train, Polar Express, Bikini babes, and then let them see trains are fun. In sales you have to get them to look at the product in order for them to buy.

Advertising is name of the game, all is fair in Love and War and model trains.

Lets make Marty the new spokesperson for GR and Rene can have her OK...

Tim
WWJD
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 9:38 PM
Would a gatefold "Engine of The Month" complete with staples work? Naw, my sugars just low.........
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Posted by Marty Cozad on Thursday, January 6, 2005 10:06 PM
I was not going to add to this thread any more, but. Heres the little boy who was in the arms of his dad.

His mouth was wide open the whole time. I could not get his photo cause each time he saw me he got shy.
He was wondering if the big train would catch Thomas, both trains are running.

Is it REAL? or Just 1:29 scale?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 7, 2005 5:23 AM
Marty, my final and best answer on "Making Garden Railroads Grow" is captured by your photograph, bring in the youth, good job!

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