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Lionel Motor repair

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Posted by 1688torpedo on Friday, June 29, 2007 7:48 PM
 Hello Freddie!    The Motor Trucks in your 627s have Aluminum Sideframes which were not always alingned for proper tolerances which happens to cause the Motors to run rough or not at all & the Bearing Plate on the bottom is usually loose as well which contibutes to the problem mentioned above. Contact Dr.Tinker's Toy Train Parts as he has a website & e-mail him to see if he can help you out. If not, I know a Fellow in Cleveland who can & is a Whiz with Toy Train Repair. Don't Give up. Take Care.
Keith Woodworth........Seat Belts save lives,Please drive safely.
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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:44 AM

Your locomotives have what are called "universal" motors.  These have a wound field wired in series with the armature.  They will run on AC or DC.  They have "3-position" e-units for reversing.  The e-unit reverses the connection of the armature to reverse the motor.  The usual wiring is pickup to e-unit red wire; one end of the field winding to the frame, the other to the e-unit green wire; brushes to e-unit yellow and blue (or maybe two yellow) wires.

A little end play in the motor is normal and desirable, but only a little.  The armature should be free to turn at either extreme.

Is the buzzing coming from the motor itself or from the e-unit?  E-unit buzzing is normal, but the e-unit should step, rotating its drum 1/8 of a turn each time you turn on the voltage.  Perhaps there is a break in the wiring between the e-unit and the motor.

Bob Nelson

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Lionel Motor repair
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:01 AM

I am in the stages of repairing several Lionel 627 from I think 1957. The cabs are red. They are 027. The motors seem to be locking up when they are on the tracks, they just buzz. I am new to this and have renewed my interest. The armature is moving up and down in its housing when the wheels are moved manually. The book I have is not very good on repairing these engines. I see that there are thrust washers in some drawing and some don't show the washers. I am pretty much lost. Any help would be appreciated. Where do I find a good book on repair, or even what site. Also what is the difference between DC and AC motors?

 

Freddie

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