Luxury Lines

[Anonymous]

Williams does make passenger cars with real road names. Many real roadnames.

Jim is, of course, correct.  Not all of Williams' passenger cars sport "Luxury Lines" lettering.  Truth is, the majority of them carry real roadnames just like those produced by other manufacturers.  Williams offers plenty to choose from, as a quick look through their catalog will readily reveal. 

[anjdevil2]

I just went through the catalog, and I must say that the inventory looks really good.  I don't think I would have a problem buying anything from them.  I have started to lust over the CNJ Blue Comet semi-scale cars and a CNJ steamer to go with them.  Price wise, its a good deal.  I don't think that I would buy the Luxury Line stuff, without thinking about erasing that and putting something else there.  It just dosen't "feel" right, that Luxury Line thing.  But the rest of it, seems to be a-ok!!  PLUS that 3 months pay plan don't hurt!

[hopper]

A rose by any other name is still a rose. An O-27 12 inch streamline passager car with

'Luxury Lines," is still an O-27 streamline  passenger car.A generic drug is still as good as the real thing.It's like that 3rd rail running down the middle of our tracks. It's just not there.Easter 

[Jumijo]

Williams does make passenger cars with real road names. Many real roadnames. And last night, I finally received my new Williams catalog. The 60' aluminum Luxury Lines passenger cars look nice. A little lacquer thinner on a cotton swab would remove that lettering in about 3 seconds if it offends. "Jumijo R.R" would look mighty nice there!

Jim 

[Anonymous]

Personaly I'd like to see "MARLINES" 

[trigtrax]

but if my theory that many don't like the name and would prefer real railroad names holds true, perhaps Williams can do even better in their sales. 

I can only speak for myself but I didn't buy the Williams 50th Anniversary because of the Union Pacific.. I bought it because I liked O-27 Streamliners and never found the "yellow" ones at a decent price. Williams sells memories and I'm sure there are enough people out there who buy them because they seem to be doing okay.

On the other hand I often see the people who want only exact prototypes complain about the color or the trucks or the door handles whenever a company tries to give them what they want.

[anjdevil2]

Why not Lyonel Lines?  TOO much infringement?

[Blueberryhill RR]

Aw shucks.....I was just about to see if Chuck wanted to buy a genuine set of Lionel Postwar Luxury Line 027 passenger cars.

BTW  For Allan and others: The reason I brought up the topic was not to criticise the Williams line, but if my theory that many don't like the name and would prefer real railroad names holds true, perhaps Williams can do even better in their sales. 

Skip,   Thanks for the offer, but I have depleted my Trains Piggy Bank for awhile. I, too, would like to see Williams put real roadnames on some of their passenger cars. In fact, I am going to call them , and suggest it. I'm sure that they would appreciate some feedback from their customers.   Chuck

[NYC Fan]

Aw shucks.....I was just about to see if Chuck wanted to buy a genuine set of Lionel Postwar Luxury Line 027 passenger cars.

BTW  For Allan and others: The reason I brought up the topic was not to criticise the Williams line, but if my theory that many don't like the name and would prefer real railroad names holds true, perhaps Williams can do even better in their sales. 

[Bob Keller]

Does anybody really care?

People can buy what they like - or not buy what they don't like.

I personally thought those K-Line "It's a boy/girl" boxcars were pretty dumb, but the local shop sold dozens each year. I don't recall ever seeing a negative thread about that. Or all the Christmas rolling stock. Or the Disney cars. Or the Polar Express trains.

Every hobbyist has their own vision of what works, or doesn't work, on their railroad.

[Anonymous]

I agree with jaabat. That kind of comment reminds one of ... elsewhere.

And anyway, what's with this "collector" talk? Williams trains are often worth thousands to "collectors." Don't their ads say, for example, "COLLECTOR VALUE: $2,500"?

[trigtrax]

Now ,some of you folks ,can go undo your undies.

Where can I get the Jaws of Life?

[Jumijo]

That is the most ridiculous thing to say that ANY freight, passenger or tender during the Lionel postwar era came with "Luxury Lines" on it. Not one original, mock-up etc. was lettered like that.

Whatever it was- it WAS NOT geniune original postwar. Where do you guys come up with stuff?

The L in "Luxury Lines" is the closest that Williams will ever get to putting "Lionel Lines" on their products. They are simply copying the postwar line as closely as possible in hopes of "hitting home" with the postwar collector that can't afford the real thing.

This kind of reply is best suited for other forums. We are all friends here, and aside from some obvious friendly banter between buddies, we like to keep the conversations civil. The guy made an honest mistake. You've never done that?!

Jim 

[Anonymous]

As is so often the case on discussion forums: Much fuss over nothing.

Williams chose "Luxury Lines" for rather obvious reasons.  If it bothers you, simply don't purchase the cars.  It certainly doesn't bother me enough to preclude me buying those cars if I happened to need or want them.  The quality alone is enough to attract my dollars if I needed more traditional-size passenger equipment.

[csxt30]

That is the most ridiculous thing to say that ANY freight, passenger or tender during the Lionel postwar era came with "Luxury Lines" on it. Not one original, mock-up etc. was lettered like that.

Whatever it was- it WAS NOT geniune original postwar. Where do you guys come up with stuff?

The L in "Luxury Lines" is the closest that Williams will ever get to putting "Lionel Lines" on their products. They are simply copying the postwar line as closely as possible in hopes of "hitting home" with the postwar collector that can't afford the real thing.

Yeah, some of us can't keep up with you HIGH END, pristene collectors.  I just can't afford the real thing .  Sure wish you lived by me .

[Blueberryhill RR]

Excuse me for laughing..........

Before this thread gets any further with name calling and insults, I'd like to say that I misread a picture of " Lionel Lines " as on a passenger car.

Now ,some of you folks ,can go undo your undies.

That's for the comments...Kevin and John.

[LS1Heli]

That is the most ridiculous thing to say that ANY freight, passenger or tender during the Lionel postwar era came with "Luxury Lines" on it. Not one original, mock-up etc. was lettered like that.

Whatever it was- it WAS NOT geniune original postwar. Where do you guys come up with stuff?

The L in "Luxury Lines" is the closest that Williams will ever get to putting "Lionel Lines" on their products. They are simply copying the postwar line as closely as possible in hopes of "hitting home" with the postwar collector that can't afford the real thing.

[csxt30]

I have never seen any postwar Luxury Lines equipment.  But then again, my memory is not as good as it used to be.  Also, my memory is not as good as it used to be.

Rob

[ADCX Rob]

I have never seen any postwar Luxury Lines equipment.  But then again, my memory is not as good as it used to be.  Also, my memory is not as good as it used to be.

Rob

[csxt30]

Well, I can't say it's that big of a deal !!  I think Chuck saw it somewhere !   

[msacco]

Luxury Lines has never appeared on any Lionel postwar rolling stock or passenger cars period.

 

Mike S.

[trigtrax]

Of course you guys would probably not believe me either if I told you I saw a two headed caribou in the archives of the UA museum either- but I did- true story.

I'm more likely to believe a two headed caribou since I actually had a snake that gave birth to a two headed offspring ( stillborn). But the Luxury Line Postwar Lionel you'll need to show me

[trigtrax]

Chuck is 100% dead on- Luxury Lines can be found on some Lionel Post War passenger cars.

I've always collected Postwar Passenger cars and I've never seen anything but Lionel Lines on them.

Luxury Lines is strictly a Williams invention.. Feeling the need to put something in that space but not wanting a lawsuit from Lionel..

If such cars exist I'd like to see one..

[Cheese]

Hmm,

I agree with the fact that Luxury Lines just looks awfull on Locomotives and Freight Cras, but I can understand passenger cars.

When you think of a streamliner, you think of luxury, so putting Luxury Lines on a set of streamliners is acceptable for me. Heavyweights, not so much, but still acceptable.

Cheese

 

[Jumijo]

Chuck,

The mind is often the first thing to go. You're still the man!

Jim 

[Blueberryhill RR]

I have been looking through a bunch of photo archives of Lionel postward and I have not found an example yet so maybe I am wrong. It sure seems to me that I have seen some post war 027 lionel passenger cars with Luxury Liner printed along their sides.

Of course you guys would probably not believe me either if I told you I saw a two headed caribou in the archives of the UA museum either– but I did– true story.

I'll keep looking. Chuck, how about you any luck with digging up some proof?

Kevin T. 

Nope. But I know I have seen it. Maybe someone with some old 50's catalogs, can help.

[AKKevinT]

I have been looking through a bunch of photo archives of Lionel postward and I have not found an example yet so maybe I am wrong. It sure seems to me that I have seen some post war 027 lionel passenger cars with Luxury Liner printed along their sides.

Of course you guys would probably not believe me either if I told you I saw a two headed caribou in the archives of the UA museum either– but I did– true story.

I'll keep looking. Chuck, how about you any luck with digging up some proof?

Kevin T. 

[LL675]

first I 've heard of that myself

[Jumijo]

I was born at night, but not last night. Is April Fool's Day just now making its way to Alaska?