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Lionel tinplate track & "add-on" ties

  • This is really a two part question.

    Anyone out there know if Lionel "O" gauge tinplate/tubular straight track comes in 14" lenghts? Have seen some advertized as Lionel but not sure.

    And... has anyone had any experience using those "ad-on" ties I see advertised in the magazine? The one I see is 3r or r3 or something like that. Or is there another alternative to adding more ties for a more realistic look.

     I think Williams track has 5.

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  • I have used add-on ties for 027 track from CTT advertiser Three R Plastics. See http://www.3r-plastics.com - they offered brown and black for 'regular' O and S gauge too. They look nifty. Not enough for me to cover the entire layout with them - but then again, I don't ballast track anymore nor tack it down.The 027 I use comes in 9 and 35 inch lengths. The regular O comes in 10 and 40 inch lengths.

    Doug Murphy 'We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...' Henry V.

  • I came across a box full of ties while sifting through some stuff my Dad picked up years ago. Don't know if they were homemade, although they seem a bit too perfect -  I think they were commercially available. Adding three between each tubular tie (six per section) makes a nice effect:

    I doubt I would have enough for the entire layout, so I am going to limit using them to the main level.

    For the tubular ties, I've been cutting these ties into sixths and "end capping" the sides of the tubular ties which show:

  •  Thanks for the opinion on the ties. I've looked at those online. Being a hands on visual person it is hard for me to decide if I like them. Would take many to do an entire layout though.

     As for the track, that's what I thought so I do not know where this person is getting their information.

  • Frank, I don't know what you mean when you refer to the tubular ties and cutting them into sixths. But I do appreciate your comment. The ties Doug refers to recommends six per section also.
  • ezmike, good point. I just used 'em in the foreground, but like Frank sez, it looks too perfect. Maybe I'm just too used to the gaps in the track.

    Doug Murphy 'We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...' Henry V.

  •  ezmike wrote:
    Frank, I don't know what you mean when you refer to the tubular ties and cutting them into sixths.

    In order to get more mileage from the existing ties I have - I have been "filling in" the hollow gap of the metal tubular tie with a small piece of a tie, rather than using an entire tie to fill in the gap:

    In the photo below, you can see how obvious the tubular gap is:

    I cut the wooden ties I have into small pieces and insert the small piece into these gaps to give the impression there is a wooden tie all the way through. I also only do this on the side visible to the viewer.

  • Here's a better comparison. The ties where the track is ballasted have a small piece of tie inserted in the tubular tie gap. The tie to the far left does not. I want to fill in that hollow space, so I use a small portion of a tie:

  • Very cool. Your creativity is inspirational! I have glued together and cut wooden coffee stirrers to do much the same thing.

    Doug Murphy 'We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...' Henry V.

  • K-Line made 14" straight pieces in o gauge.  I have a couple.  I dunno about 027.  As for ties, if you're ambitious and want to save a buck, you can make your own.  I bought 1/4" foam core board from an art supply store and cut my own.  It took some time but what doesn't?  I needed a bunch so the cost was worth it. 
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  • First question:  I believe K-Line made 14" lengths of "O" Gauge track.  I think I have a piece or two on my layout.

     Second question: the rubber ties from 3r Plastics are great!  They're a perfect match size-wise to the Lionel/K-Line metal tie, the same color, and have not only wood-grain but tie plates that the track snugs into as well! 

    Here are some on my layout:

     

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  • Traditional O27 straights are about 8 7/8 inches.  Marx O34 straights are about 11 1/8 inches.  K-Line made O27 profile in exact 18- and 36-inch lengths.  Lionel makes about 35 3/8.

    I supplement O27 ties with popsicle sticks (not that I have ballasted much of my track at all!), which you can buy in quantity from hobby stores, cut to length (2 inches) and then painted.  They are 3/8-inch wide, narrower than the 1/2-inch O27 tie tops. However, it is difficult to notice the difference in the ballasted track; and the overall impression is of a narrower tie.  Even so, 3/8 inch is twice the proper scale width!  Since the metal ties are much too wide, adding very slightly narrower ties in-between seems to give an overall impression of a more realistic width.

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  •  ezmike wrote:

    This is really a two part question.

    Anyone out there know if Lionel "O" gauge tinplate/tubular straight track comes in 14" lenghts? Have seen some advertized as Lionel but not sure.

    And...

    Lionel & K-Line have both made 14 3/8" straights in tubular "O"...  Lionel since the 1930's.  there are 6 ties per section, spaced evenly 2 11/16" on center.  It's O-72 straight track, it's length equals the straight portion of a O-72 tubular switch. 

    Lionel T-Rail(pre-war only) matched these dimensions too except for the tie spacing - 10 narrower ties per section, & they are spaced so that when connected to an adjacent section they are all evenly spaced instead of closer at the joint:

    As a side, FasTrack is the third system Lionel has offered  in O-72.  It's too bad Super-O was overlooked!

    Rob 

    Rob

  • We have the extra ties added to our O27 track

     

     

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