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Harry Potter Set (again)

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Posted by njalb1 on Sunday, July 1, 2007 4:24 PM

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 1, 2007 8:26 AM
any updates on this set, ive looked but cant find any info on it
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Posted by BDT in Minnesota on Monday, February 26, 2007 5:06 PM
Yikes,,,,If I do get a set, I think I will just haul the thing around the layout on a bunch of Lionel 68-- flatcars!!!!  BDT
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Posted by lionelsoni on Monday, February 26, 2007 9:33 AM

"Hornby is British OO, which is 4 millimeters/foot (1/76) running on HO (16.5 millimeter) track.  This odd arrangement is not used in continental Europe."

It is American (Lionel) OO which runs on 19-millimeter track.

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Posted by John Busby on Monday, February 26, 2007 5:35 AM

 lionelsoni wrote:
HO, American and otherwise, is smaller than British OO.  It is 3.5 millimeters/foot, or 1/87.  American OO, like Lionel made, is 4 millimeters/foot or 1/76 for both models and track gauge, which works out to 19 millimeters or 3/4 inch.

Hi guys

OO Scale Is 4mm scale on 16.5 mm track this strange combination came about because when HO scale started it was impossible to fit a clockwork motor in an HO typical English design locomotive but by adding the .5mm to the scale they could then fit the clock work motor into the body.

No manufacturer that I know of in the UK where it started ever used 19mm as the track gauge for OO scale trains

The closest I know of is 18.83 mm gauge know as P4 (I think) and this is used by the extra serious fine scale modellers

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:45 PM
 Nick12DMC wrote:

As I have said before I would like to see Lionel have a higher profile on this side of the pond. This set is crying out for display in a Hamleys or Harrods Christmas window in London.

This would take two things to happen.

 1) A European Compatible CE approved power supply

 2)JC to get on the phone and smooth talk one of these storesWink [;)] 

 If I won the lottery and had a few million quid in the bank I would make it happenCool [8D]

Nick

Nick,

If I win the US Powerball lottery,  I'll hire you as a partner/consultant to make it happen!!  Smile [:)]

 

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Posted by Nick12DMC on Friday, February 23, 2007 12:41 PM

Cool [8D]Hornby have a US site:

http://www.hornby-usa.com/

As I understand it Hornby Harry Potter sets are also available in the USA.

My guess is that there are no restrictions on where the diffrent sets can be sold. I would again guess that they are divided by scale O, HO , OO etc. 

As I have said before I would like to see Lionel have a higher profile on this side of the pond. This set is crying out for display in a Hamleys or Harrods Christmas window in London.

This would take two things to happen.

 1) A European Compatible CE approved power supply

 2)JC to get on the phone and smooth talk one of these storesWink [;)] 

 If I won the lottery and had a few million quid in the bank I would make it happenCool [8D]

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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:20 PM
I noticed that this locomotive has a headlight.  I came across some text from one of the Harry Potter books that actually describes its headlight; so it makes sense that the model would have one.  But can anyone explain why the author would imagine that there would be one, other than from unfamiliarity with old British practice?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:09 PM

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 alexweiihman wrote:

I think that lionel will be able to sell there sets in Europe because Bachmann trains made their set and sold it both in the US & UK.

Lionel does have a United Kingdom dealer where their trains can be purchased.

Unfortunately, Lionel does not offer a 220V/50Hz transformer for their train products to operate on European current. 

European users of Lionel trains must purchase various voltage converters to operate them, which are not inexpensive.

However, it can be accomplished, as there is a Lionel Collector's Club UK:

http://www.fastnet.co.uk/lionelclubuk/

If you happen to be in England during the Summer, why not pop in, and say "Hello"....

It's a bit of trip, though ...    (i.e. 213 miles North of London)  near Leeds.

Annual American Classic Toy Train Show
Winter Gardens , Ilkley

Lionel Collectors Club UK
Winter Gardens Ilkley Saturday 2nd June 2007 10.30 - 4.30 Operating Layouts

 

With Lionel's version of the Harry Potter Hogwarts Express available at the end of this year, it would be a feather in their cap if they offered a multi-voltage  110v/60Hz - 220v/50Hz transformer in that set... or, at least offer a 220v/50Hz set for the European market.

Will Lionel do it?      I doubt it.

Why?    Too expensive.

It would be an excellent opportunity to expand Lionel's market share.  Especially, when they really need it!

 

 

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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:54 PM
HO, American and otherwise, is smaller than British OO.  It is 3.5 millimeters/foot, or 1/87.  American OO, like Lionel made, is 4 millimeters/foot or 1/76 for both models and track gauge, which works out to 19 millimeters or 3/4 inch.

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Posted by njalb1 on Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:56 PM

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Posted by alexweiihman on Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:57 PM
Hornby trains is OO scale which is equivelent to ameerican HO.  I think that lionel will be able to sell there sets in Europe because Bachame trains made thr set and sold it both in the US & UK.
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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:56 PM

Hornby is British OO, which is 4 millimeters/foot (1/76) running on HO (16.5 millimeter) track.  This odd arrangement is not used in continental Europe.

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Harry Potter Set (again)
Posted by BobbyDing on Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:49 PM

Just came across this:

http://www.hornby.com/2007/harry-potter-order-of-the-phoenix,92,HAR.html

So I'm thinking Hornby will have the European rites to the HE all sewn up?

What scale is Hornby?

Would this mean Lionel won't be selling its HE in Europe?

That's a pretty model Hornby's got lined up. I wonder how Lionel's will compare?

Bobby

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