pin placement for o-gauge switches

[Dr. Choo-Choo]

I'm using the S-scale model layout and AF Switches. What I'm confused about is trying to use the fiber pins in the first place.

1. Question #1 - If I just want to run a single train on a track, do I really need to use the fiber pins on the switches/turnouts?
2. Question #2 - If I were to folow the instruction previously discussed on this chat, is it safe to say I can insert fiber pins on my S Scale switches and have the same results of using two trainong on the same transformer & track?
3. Question #3 - If I previousl had the fiber pins inserted as described in the AF Manual and my locomotives stalled at the switches, what is the remedy for getting the locomotive(s) to power through?  Should I just increase power?

Any healp is greatly appreciated.

yallaen

Dang..I was JUST about to paste that link in and got beat to it..

The first reply is not necessarily correct. The plastic or fiber pins go on the inside rails..so if you're turnout is a right turnout, the pins go in the right rail on the straight and turnout sections..see the diagram and you'll understand!

 

 

yallaen

Dang..I was JUST about to paste that link in and got beat to it..

The first reply is not necessarily correct. The plastic or fiber pins go on the inside rails..so if you're turnout is a right turnout, the pins go in the right rail on the straight and turnout sections..see the diagram and you'll understand!

 

 

[eZAK]

I am so missunderstood!

Yall, I think you may need to lighten up a bit ol'boy.

By the way, my first two post in this thread are completely factual! There are no derogatory or sarcastic remarks to be found in them. They are only found in your perception! These post were meant to be helpful and nothing more.

My third post however is mostly sarcasm, except for the frog thing, that is called humor. It was posted in response to your shouting!

My knowledge, help, and advice will still be available to you and everyone else whether you guys want it or not.

Just do me one favor yallaen, Next time you consider the source please look in the mirror first! (more sarcasm b/c I know how much you like it)

[yallaen]

Not sensitive..just taken aback..

Now I understand why one of the other members left the forum. A simple was reply was made, and a sarcastic remark was shot back. I'd expect that from my skydiving forum..but not a train forum.

But then again, I'll just consider the source..even though you gave a couple good insights on my request for ideas on the layout..

 

[eZAK]

Woooo Weeeee!!!

Bold type  And Large letters!

Aren't we sensitive!

Mr. Yell'in, Do the frogs croak when you trip over them?

[yallaen]

again, look at my post..the 2nd link that was posted shows the insulating pins for the O-22 switch. They do not meet at the frog. I know what a frog is. I trip over the dang things all the time.

AND YOU DONT HAVE TO TYPE IN BOLD AND BE HATEFUL SOUNDING..I wasn't being hateful sounding btw..I said "not necessarily correct" and brought up the O-22 switch.

 

 

[lionelsoni]

Lionel used at least three arrangements of control rails on various turnout models, two on the 1122 alone.  (By the way, Olsen's pdfs for the 1952 and later 1122s are swapped.)

[eZAK]

"The first reply is not necessarily correct."

Actually Yallaen I am correct!

The 'short' rails going to the Frog are insulated on most switches and considered by many as the control rails for the non-derailing action.

A Frog is the common rail point between two or more intersecting tracks.

[Anonymous]

I've got Lionel O-27 switches.  Thanks to all, I'm up and running.

[lionelsoni]

Let's ask Lionel Ronsco what kind of turnouts he has.  There are several ways that they have been built.

[yallaen]

Oops..that link that was posted is for a 1122 switch..O27. Here is the link for a O-22 switch

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com//cd/swt/stc022c.pdf

[yallaen]

Dang..I was JUST about to paste that link in and got beat to it..

The first reply is not necessarily correct. The plastic or fiber pins go on the inside rails..so if you're turnout is a right turnout, the pins go in the right rail on the straight and turnout sections..see the diagram and you'll understand!

 

[Anonymous]

 

Here's a link to the Lionel service manual for fiber pin placement:

 http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/swt/st1122e1.pdf

 

 

[eZAK]

Fiber pins go in the shortest rail leading to the frog. They are used for the non derailing feature.

[Anonymous]

I am have trouble getting the right combination of steel, and fiber pin placement on adjoining 3 rail switches.  Any advice would be appreciated.