Bob Keller
" As for ricers - Aren't those stickers worth something like 3-5 HP apiece?"
Oh, yeah, there's a formula for that....100hp ricer + 50 stickers @ 10hp each (EXCEPT!! NOS stickers and Vtech stickers are like 500 each) = 600hp. AND! don't forget that used chrome 5 lb coffee can for the (annoying) exhaust!!! At least another 100hp!
But the aside to this is that while Chrysler made it, I BUILT IT!! (You may insert Chevy Ford in your instance to substitute Chrysler)!
But...it's all good!!
I am the monster in your head...And I thought you'd learn by now, It seems you haven't yet.I am the venom in your skin --- Breaking Benjamin
anjdevil2 wrote: Anything American?Is there anything REALLY made here....100%
Anything American?
Is there anything REALLY made here....100%
Funny thing about cars The "American" cars are made from foreign and domestic parts while "foriegn" auto makers are investing in manufacturing plants in the USA And with those mfg. plants come supporting businesses(also forgiencompanys)
I am a FORD F-150 man but I did buy a Pontiac Transam with Ram air
Yes, the 100 Year Bridge Company manufactures their bridges and shipping boxes in the USA. There was a photo on the forum a while back - I think Blueberry Hill Chuck posted it - with that message printed boldly on teh box.
If I need a bridge - I will by it from them, unless a post war Lionel original would fit teh bill.
anjdevil2 wrote: Make Mine Mopar....or just plain AMERICAN!!!
Make Mine Mopar....or just plain AMERICAN!!!
Plain American????? What about Fancy American???? Purple or Orange American???????
underworld
John O
"Dude, the incense is over by my bong. Oh wait, thats innocence. Thats like a Don Henley song man."
jimtrumpie wrote: Ogaugeoverlord wrote:You know guys, some of you are like kids picking at that scab so that it never heals.I really get sick and tired of having police these threads where the Orange bashers or the Purple Bashers try and recuit people to the Great Toy Train Civil War.If you don't like MTH, don't but it.It you don't like Lionel, don't buy it.But for heaven's sake stop trying to drag everyone else into the fight. Aren't there enough real issues in the real world to get you blood pressure worked up?I am tired of all this nonsense, and I suspct that others here are as well.
Ogaugeoverlord wrote:You know guys, some of you are like kids picking at that scab so that it never heals.I really get sick and tired of having police these threads where the Orange bashers or the Purple Bashers try and recuit people to the Great Toy Train Civil War.If you don't like MTH, don't but it.It you don't like Lionel, don't buy it.But for heaven's sake stop trying to drag everyone else into the fight. Aren't there enough real issues in the real world to get you blood pressure worked up?I am tired of all this nonsense, and I suspct that others here are as well.
anjdevil2 wrote:It's a choice. I really don't feel that it's a question of who's better. It's just what you CHOOSE to OWN!
It's a choice. I really don't feel that it's a question of who's better. It's just what you CHOOSE to OWN!
You're a brand loyalist, apparently, and there's certainly nothing wrong with that, if that's what floats your boat.
I do my buying based on the product--era, type, roadname, etc.--and couldn't care less what name is on the box. That gives me the widest possible selection and all the product I could possibly want, and more. I doubt if anyone could assert that is a bad thing.
Different strokes for different folks! The name of the game in ANY hobby!
I buy what I like, Hot Wheels, Mopars, Lionels....what ever. Competition makes everything better, price and quality. I have some K-Line, and I like the quality and the price. I HAD some MTH rolling stock, and I wasn't impressed, sold 'em off or returned 'em to my LHS. Just didn't like 'em. My choice & opinion. My LHS had a CNJ Camelback, which just made me crazed. I really wanted it, just @$350... too much for my pocketbook...BUT I did like the demo and the unit (PS1?, don't remember).
Legacy is Lionel. Dad has 'em. Mom went shopping with me (in NJ) and she asked me 'Who is this MTH?" long story Mom......
In the battle of the Muscle Cars..I'll take a Mopar, curse the Chev or Ford....BUT!! Get us next to a 'ricer burner' and we're all friends.
1688torpedo wrote: Clint- Looks like your pooch had a crawdad or two! Hope he feels better soon. Better give hime some Jif Peanut Butter to take away the "Crawdad Aftertaste" Take Care.
Jif???? What about Skippy????? Orange or Purple label???
Waaaayyyyy too much fun!
Well, that was interesting reading. Didn't want it to go orange vs. purple though. I especially enjoyed the ozone comments... If you don't get blue arcs, you don't have real power! I have an ionic breeze in the corner of my basement. 2 loops of standard gauge(200,500 series) and 3 of tin plate O. However, I believe mine cost a little more, and will resell better.
As for MTH. I don't care for his business practices. We always respect the person who is humble, works hard, and makes his million(s), vs. the person, who gets their million through the lotto, frivalous lawsuit, or stealing whatever to make a million,and then puts it in your face. As a person who spent 12 years in the maching world(machinist and mostly Tool and cutter grinder),Mike's tinplate products are near perfect. He does great reproductions, as he did for Lionel years ago. You can put lionel plates on his cars, and not really tell the difference. That could be a whole new thread, besides how reproductions have affected collector value.
One last thought. I recently attended the fall York show,with a very experienced man in this industry/hobby. That was an amazing show, especially for a first timer!!! Secondly because who I was with. We went through the buildings, at a fair pace, looking for what we desired. I watched him, how he talked to "dealers", how he played off as just another Joe, and then how he recieved respect from MTH, Lionel, Atlas, and a gentleman from O Scale Forum(?),who knew who he was. I've seen him talk to people, in a very humble way, taking their blow hard attitude, and not even flinch, or come back at them in anyway.When I first witnessed these incidents, I was like a young tiger ready to pounce, but he would look over to me, grin and wink. Now I just sit back and watch...It's funny! Only when he is with his closest friends, collectors, and associates; will he get slightly opinionated, and maybe put some vigor in his voice. He indirectly, got me back into this hobby, and has been mentoring me since. I hope that some day I'll learn his professionalism and restraint, and be able to fill his large shoes. Thanks all.
John
If you run them you don't have to dust them as often.
I Like Chocolate!!!
I like chocolate!!!
- Clint
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Ogaugeoverlord wrote:And I'll say it again, I'm tired of it.Endlessly ranting about the state of the hobby with the apparent goal of simply stirring things up and keeping the level of animocity running high can be done elsewhere, not here.
Agreed. The AOL boards is for ranting about the state of the hobby. Problem is, many can't take the flames they entice.
FJ and G wrote: I feel traumatized and hounded by all of this banter."yawn"
I feel traumatized and hounded by all of this banter.
"yawn"
Thanks Dave !! Now I have to go look that word up !! ( banter )
Thanks, John
I agree with you, Bob. I usually don't get involved in these type of discussions because I have heard enough complaining in my life. I WILL say this.....Automobile companies are a good example of customer loyality turning sour. That's why they have warranties. In fact, so do Toy Train Companies. Anything MASS PRODUCED will have a few LEMONS. Some people that were total Loyalists to Lionel, for example, would recieve their product, only to find a LEMON. This would turn them off terribly. The same holds true for automobles. The old war of Ford vs. Chevrolet, is an example. I have always bought Chevys, because I worked for them. AND, I have had a few that I was not happy with. OK, I said my opinion.
Chuck
I like stuff from all the manufacturers. My problem is you have to choose which command control system you want to use... that is where DCC is better than DCS or TMCC, you can buy DCC compatible engines from any manufacturer - there is not proprietary boards or sounds, etc - never could understand how a sound can be proprietary or trademarked... but oh well.I have MTH, Williams, Lionel, K-Line rolling stock. But because I chose to go TMCC I can only buy Lionel engines that are compatible with TMCC, I can't buy MTH engines unless I want to run my engines in conventional mode. This is where, IMHO, MTH is hurting the hobby. It was Mike Wolf's decision to lock down PS2, in turn Lionel has locked down TMCCII, both systems will not be compatible - and I doubt you will be able to run both systems on the same track - unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary.As for MTH engines being cheeper than Lionel engines... look at the cost for a C&O Allegheny:Lionel = $1,699.99 (list)MTH = $1,399.95 (list)Now MTH did make a 'RailKing' version for $699.95 where Lionel has not. So in all reality there isn't that much difference. If you look at the large on-line dealers, they tend to mark the Lionel stuff down further than the MTH, thereby in a sense, eliminating the cost difference.Brent
"But for heaven's sake stop trying to drag everyone else into the fight. Aren't there enough real issues in the real world to get you blood pressure worked up?I am tired of all this nonsense, and I suspct that others here are as well."
That having been said, I agree that amongst the world's issues this one is pretty much small potatoes. Then again, so are the results of sports, constituting even less important issues, which people also get quite exercised and opinionated about.
I hope that as long as the conversation remains civil and non-libelous, CTT will allow full discussion of the issues that exist in the hobby and industry, no matter how upsetting or boring to some.
HEAR HERE!!!! Now if only that could be posted to the chowderheads on the 20 other forum boards [mostly cars] I look and post at could read this, the world would be a better place.
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