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THE 2007 GREAT OHIO TRAIN ROBBERY

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Posted by csxt30 on Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:35 PM
 phillyreading wrote:

CSXT30,

I did not know that the reverser was able to be removed and that would surely keep somebody from moving a locomotive when removed, from the knowledge I have of heavy equipment and automtive knowledge taking out the reverser is like taking the shifter off of a transmission in a car or truck.  Have played a railroad simulater on the computor so I know where the reverser would be and what it does but never been on board a live locomotive.

Far as those kids coupling and uncoupling cars that took some nerve or something, blowing the whistle most of the way was advertising the fact that they stole the locomotive and alerting people to call the police. Maybe the kids were trying to challenge the authorities by blowing the whistle most of the way, hooking up cars could have been an attempt to make the train look like a regular freight train and not an engine on the loose.

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Lee : These kids sure knew a lot to get that eng. going. Most people don't know about the Lay Handle used to start the eng. either, located a few doors behind the cab. Though the old GEs had a button inside the cab to start them. Let me ask you this : do those simulators have the lay handle or buttons to start them & how about the Generator field swithes & sanders ?  I think some of the Shortlines will be tightening up on security after this gets out !!

Daryl (Weldman 87) was that derailment up in Willoughby by Tom's house or when you worked with the Bessimer, now CN ?

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Posted by mickey4479 on Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:08 PM
This reminds me of that run away train movie with Jon Voigt (sic?).  That lash up was something when it hit the tail of the train attempting to get on a siding.  This "prank" is quite serious.  Luckly nobody was killed or injured.
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Posted by phillyreading on Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:43 AM

CSXT30,

I did not know that the reverser was able to be removed and that would surely keep somebody from moving a locomotive when removed, from the knowledge I have of heavy equipment and automtive knowledge taking out the reverser is like taking the shifter off of a transmission in a car or truck.  Have played a railroad simulater on the computor so I know where the reverser would be and what it does but never been on board a live locomotive.

Far as those kids coupling and uncoupling cars that took some nerve or something, blowing the whistle most of the way was advertising the fact that they stole the locomotive and alerting people to call the police. Maybe the kids were trying to challenge the authorities by blowing the whistle most of the way, hooking up cars could have been an attempt to make the train look like a regular freight train and not an engine on the loose.

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Posted by weldman87 on Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:46 AM

WOW are these kids in trouble. I can not beleive they had the guts to steal a a train.

We had a derailment at work in November and CSX called the FBI in to investigate it because CSX claimed that someone moved a switch and derailed the car,  wonder what these kids are going to get as punishment.

I think the railroad better look at some better lock for the switches and do something diffrent with the reverser switch like John said.

When I worked with a small railroad we took the reverser out and put it in a holder under the controls, but that dont mean that somebody could not do the same thing.

Keep us posted as to what happens with the 2 of them.

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:40 AM

Heck, I remember him, and I'm "only" 30.  Does that mean I'm not young anymore ;)

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:46 PM

He's (Max Headroom) a cool guy! Big Smile [:D]  I was into computers

before they were cool! (1960's)  He still shows up on SCI-

FI channel once in awhile. Glad some others remember him! 

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Posted by underworld on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:18 PM

ChesBchRy Good to see you have a gig since Coke and that Max Headroom TV show! Tongue [:P]

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:50 PM

Jim Fortner; Actually that WAS made into a movie called "End of the Line" Starring

Wilford Brimley and Mary Steenbergen! I have it. It's a neat "little" movie about

saving a shortline from greedy "progressive" business interests.  Try checking

around at video stores for old copies. 

 

Oh yeah...It DOESN'T have any stupid ending like "Thelma & Louise" and NOBODY

got killed! Great family movie. Little bit of language, but that's about it. 

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Posted by Brutus on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:46 PM
I know this is so wrong, but man - cool!  This could be made into an interesting movie, that's for sure!  Sort of Thelma and Louise without the stupid ending!

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Posted by csxt30 on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:37 PM
 Buckeye Riveter wrote:

John, do you realize that when they hit Nelsonville, they coupled some cars to the engine and continued on towards Logan? 

I read they were being sent back to their respective county juvenile jails.  Theft of a train will be added to their listing of offenses.

I also understand that they laid on the horn the whole trip.  This is the engine that they took for a ride.

HVSR (former C&O) GP7 5833

Buckeye : yes, I read all the articles you had linked there, & they had to break locks off the switches it said. They would never break the locks that first class RRs use. They would need  a key or a torch, especially our mainline locks, they are huge & case hardened & I believe run about 75 bucks or more each, I was told.

I heard there are games or simulators out there where you can run a train or fly a helicopter & after playing these & I'll bet this stuff will happen more down the road. Boy, kids coupling cars up, if they don't know what they're doing they easily could have gotten killed or injured very seriously. I see they enjoyed laying on the horn, so that may have helped alert more people. if the reverser for that eng. had been locked up in the office or somewhere, they wouldn't have been able to move it. A normal SOP on RR's is always take it out of the eng.

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Posted by thatboy37 on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:00 PM

i wish it was me that went on the ride but not with all the consequences they are facing.

 

 

 

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Posted by underworld on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:57 PM

Coupling up some cars and continuing...that's what really makes it a great story!

 

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:33 PM

John, do you realize that when they hit Nelsonville, they coupled some cars to the engine and continued on towards Logan? 

I read they were being sent back to their respective county juvenile jails.  Theft of a train will be added to their listing of offenses.

I also understand that they laid on the horn the whole trip.  This is the engine that they took for a ride.

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Posted by csxt30 on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:05 PM

What a story Buckeye . If that had been a First Class RR they would be in a lot more trouble I believe. A lot of Federal laws would have been broken then. Though they are really in a lot of trouble anyway. 

Thanks, John

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:01 PM

That clears some things up.  That caboose is always parked in that yard.  I bet that was a quite event pushing those cars around.  It's right off the main drag through the city (AKA RT 33). 

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:49 PM

More details:

http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2007/01/17/20070117-A1-05.html

Apparently, the older boy is a member of a railroading family.

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Posted by phillyreading on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:43 PM

Maybe the locomotive got stuck at the switch by being derailed.

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:16 PM

Or maybe they just gave up.  All the sudden no security jail moves a notch up the crime belt.

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Posted by phillyreading on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:46 AM

One major question comes to my mind; How do you stop a locomotive that weighs over 150 tonsDead [xx(]Question [?]  The only way to stop a locomotive would be with another locomotive or string of frieght cars on the track to block the stolen locomotive.My 2 cents [2c]

Not sure but I don't think that you have switch control from the cab, usually modern day switch control is done from a tower or office many miles away.

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:29 AM

I wonder how far they could have went?  Do they have switch track control from the cab?

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Posted by underworld on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:14 AM

WoW! I Guess it would be hard to make a get away by train...........they can just

follow your tracks!!!!!Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:51 AM
WOW...now that's a story.
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THE 2007 GREAT OHIO TRAIN ROBBERY
Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:34 AM

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