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I saw Union Pacific engines in New Jersey!

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I saw Union Pacific engines in New Jersey!
Posted by lionel2986 on Monday, December 25, 2006 3:40 PM

I was driving on the New Jersey turnpike and to my right is the largest port on the east coast. I usually see Conrail and sometimes Norfolk Southern, but yesterday I saw 2 Union Pacific diesels pulling a long line of freights. Is this normal? I guess this means modern Union pacific wont look out of place on a layout of New Jersey trains... not that I care about that when buying an engine, I buy what I like.

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Posted by chuck on Monday, December 25, 2006 5:23 PM
Equipment is often leased/cross leased and railroads tend to leave equipment in MU's if it's easier on a fast unit train.
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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Monday, December 25, 2006 6:14 PM

The rule on most run through equipment from Union Pacific is that the equipment heading east is normally the older locomotives. Recently built locomotives are kept on the home rails for the first few years.

BNSF on the other hand will have new locomotives on run through trains all the time when they head east.

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Monday, December 25, 2006 6:53 PM
Normal.  You will see a mix.  Seen and seen pictures of CN mixed with NS.  In Roanoke VA, I've seen a lot of UP mixed with NS.  I have seen one picture and it was called a rairity.  CSX on NS line.

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Posted by csxt30 on Monday, December 25, 2006 7:19 PM

Up here on Lake Erie, we have some Shared Facility arrangements. NS &  CSX  both run  together on the Line that goes to  Conway yards  Pa.  That runs North & South. CSX just has Rights to run on that track. They share the coal dumping facility on the Lake  & NS  actually owns 52 %  of it & CSX owns the remainder. That was the deal they made when getting Conrail. Both RRs have mainlines going East & West, with Amtrak running on CSX. It's kind of a North deal !! Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Monday, December 25, 2006 8:47 PM

If you thought you saw something strange in Jersey, take a look at this photo taken in Southern Ohio on the NS mainline.  This train had just entered Ohio from West Virginia and heading west. 

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:02 AM

On the Norfolk Southern line through Elkhart, Indiana trains with Burlington Northern and Santa Fe locomotives have become more common. Western motive power has often gone east, but in the past 10 years is has become more common with more mergers and more power sharing.

If you are going to make a 2006 layout with western units on eastern lines, it would be a good idea to stick to models of locos built before 1996.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:58 AM
We see occasional Santa Fe trains here on the UP in Austin and many leased locomotives mixed in with the armour yellow, including Mexican roads but with Norfolk Southern the most common.  I once saw an Amtrak P42 in a northbound UP freight lashup.  It appeared to be ill suited for the task, with smoke pouring from its traction motors.  They had to double the hill and leave half the train at the Sneed siding.

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:24 PM
John. no CSX on the great NS.Wink [;)]

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 8:19 PM

 ChiefEagles wrote:
John. no CSX on the great NS.Wink [;)]

Up north, you will see CSX and NS using the same tracks due to wrecks and maintenance.

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Posted by csxt30 on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 8:32 PM
 Buckeye Riveter wrote:

 ChiefEagles wrote:
John. no CSX on the great NS.Wink [;)]

Up north, you will see CSX and NS using the same tracks due to wrecks and maintenance.

That's right Buckeye !! REAL RAILROADING up here !! We run in all the elements !!  When CSX'S  Jacksonville headquarters  got their share of  Conrail,  they found out about the elements up here in the 1st. snow storms !!  We had to educate  em' down there !!  Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by 1688torpedo on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:13 PM
Laugh [(-D] John!   We see the Warbonnet Santa-Fe's on the former NYC going east to Erie & Buffalo along with Union Pacific engines also. Have not seen any Grits Hopper's on the NS yet, due to our successful program of keeping the North Grits free!Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]Chef [C=:-)]Whistling [:-^]Clown [:o)] Take Care all.
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Posted by luther_stanton on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:38 PM

 ChiefEagles wrote:
Normal.  You will see a mix.  Seen and seen pictures of CN mixed with NS.  In Roanoke VA, I've seen a lot of UP mixed with NS.  I have seen one picture and it was called a rairity.  CSX on NS line.

 I caught some photos of CSX power running on the NS mainline between Macon and Atlanta, GA.  It was heading south from ATL.  Just once though, so I guess it is a raritySmile [:)]

We have at least a daily BNSF unit coal train that heads down to Plant Scherer, a coal fired power plant just north of Macon.  I believe the coal is from the Powder River Basin?  They mostly run newer AC4400 power - two on the head end and one pushing from the rear.  An empty train rolls north each day as well.

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Posted by cnw1995 on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:12 AM
I love railfanning surprises like this. A few months ago, two NS AC units were on the point of a very late autorack train that loomed out of the dark while i was waiting at the station for my scoot into Chicago - this was heading to Janesville - 100 miles west of Chicago - a long way from regular NS stomping grounds.

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Posted by palallin on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:38 AM
We sometimes see CN engines down here in mid-Missouri on the Been Nuthin' Since Frisco.
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Posted by phillyreading on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:28 AM
Not that odd an event as Santa Fe was photographed about 50 years ago on the Reading Railroad. Seems like railroads share rolling stock and motive power quite often. Most often railroads lease the right of way, here in south Florida Norfolk Southern runs over FEC(Florida East Coast) tracks daily to West Palm Beach or Miami, NS switches over somewhere in Georgia to FEC tracks. Lee F.
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