Hello everybody.
I know a lot of folks on here collect and have tons more knowledge than me about Marx trains,so here's the question.
Anyone have any information on Marx boxed sets ? My Dad has a Sears Allstate set # 9825.It containes the plastic 1666 loco with side smoke and Southern Pacific Lines tender.A black L.V. coal hopper.A grey Pennsy gondola.Two Erie tuscan flats,that I think should of had trailers on them because there's just one hold down on the flats.A tuscan S.P. caboose.And a green Allstate motor oil single dome tankcar,which I can't find out anything on.
It has two manual switches,poles,a depot,and alot of track with fake black plastic ballast on the bottom.And the other typical items included in most sets I've seen.
If anyone knows anything about this set or knows a site where to find out,please let me know.
Thanks everyone !
Collin ,operator of the " Eastern Kentucky & Ohio R.R."
My suggestion? Take a look at the group that focuses upon Marx Sets & Marx Trains. Take a look at both groups:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marxsetlovers/?yguid=24679421
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If you want to learn more about Marx here are Marx Guides that will be very helpful:
The 1666 with side or cylinder smoke is somewhat rare, making it more valuable than other 1666 locos. I've seen these go for up to $100 on Ebay (assuming it is in very good condition and the smoke unit works.) Standard 1666 locos with standard smoke (or no smoke) go for much less, usually in the $20 - $40 range depending on condition. The other cars are good, run of the mill Marx cars but none are particularly prize items.Sounds like a great set. The 1666 is a good runner and easy to maintain. Do you plan on keeping and running it (my suggestion!) or trying to sell?
Thanks guys for the information.
I really don't know what my Dads plans are.I hope he does keep it.I have a few in my collection and really enjoy them.
This set was bought from an older gentelman who lives in the same little town my Dad does.It is in very nice shape.Hardly any scratchs to mention at all.The wheels don't look to have been on the track but a few passes.And it has the large Allstate set box which is about a 8.
I couldn't count the times over the years I've passed up Marx.I always had that little "I wished I'd bought that" thought after I didn't buy it,only to go back and...It's gone,sold to the next person who looked at it .
If anyon else can tell me more about this set please post.
Thanks again .
I can't tell you a great deal more, but probably what collectors would value most in your set is the track. Marx just sold this track with plastic roadbed in some Sears Allstate sets and never offered it for seperate sale. As a result, it is rather hard to come by and is in very high demand from Marx operators.
It's too bad that the flatcars don't have their trailers, which seems surprising considering that the rest of the set is in mint condition with the original box. The least valuable of these is one hauling either a Burlington or NYC trailer, which is listed in my price guide at $60-$100. Other trailers raise the price to $125-$175. Without them the flatcars are worth only about $10 each. Value aside, the trailers are very attractive.
Also, out of curiousity, does the rolling stock have four wheels with plastic simulated trucks on the sides or do they have eight wheels and actual trucks? It doesn't really make a difference as far as rarity or value, although the eight-wheel versions tend to be more popular as they are more realistic and of better quality.
Thanks Tinplater.
They have the metal four axle trucks.
Do you know the value of the green Allstate tanker.It doesn't have a number on it.My Marx guide is about 5 years old .Need to update don't I .
My Marx guide is also five years old and I imaging is the same one you have. It is the eighth edition of Greenberg's Marx Trains Pocket Price Guide, which was published in 2001. However, as far as I know, this is the most recent edition they've published. I don't think the values have changed that much since then anyway, though.
When I first read your initial post, I missed the fact that you said your Allstate tank car was GREEN. This is definitely something unusual, as they were normally blue. This variation would certainly be worth more than a normal blue one, but it's hard to say just how much. To the right individual, it could be worth a great deal more. I wish I could give you something more definite. There are so many colour variations in Marx. This isn't the first I've heard of such a variation, though. You can see the 4-wheel version of this car in green at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/marxtin/site/marxtin.htm , which is probably the best Marx site on the web, although they don't cover 8-wheel plastic. Click on 4-Wheel Plastic and then Tank Cars. You might consider e-mailing Walt Hiteshew, the site's owner, if you're still interested in finding out what such a car could be worth.
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