jaabat wrote:I've recently bought some really clean post war locos and rolling stock in C-8 condition. I paid much less than half of Greenberg's price on every single one of them. Heck, I bought a very nice 2056 and tender a few weeks ago for $30.00!
didn't you learn about sharing in grade school?
Lee:
I have yet to find a train show. Please let me know if you are coming over to Ft Myers or other shows which might be in reasonable distance from Sarasota. You can reach me at: frank@lionellines.net
Frank53,
I am south of West Palm Beach by about five miles. Agree with you about Sarasota being deficiant on model trains in general. Perhaps you can try Fort Myers, at least two stores that deal with trains in Fort Myers. I use West Palm Beach or Miami for model train stuff new, used I usually go to train shows, even been to the one near Thanksgiving in Ft. Myers area, larger show than the Port St. Lucie one in October 14th.
Just went to the site you list for progress on your layout. A tip or two; don't put curve tracks too close together because of hang over by engines or long cars like 60 foot Madisons. Do a test run before permantly securing the track.
A word about selling stuff with ebay or other auction sites is that you have to pay for each listing if selling separate, also a reserve price may be good to do but it too costs more money on most sites.
Lee F.
Modeling the Baltimore waterfront in HO scale
phillyreading wrote: Frank53, I have been unable to get even half of book value for Lionel down here in south Florida, Lee F.
I have been unable to get even half of book value for Lionel down here in south Florida,
I see you are in Lake Worth, and I admitedly do not know where that is. I am in Sarasota - kind of like O-Gauge Hell.
I have been unable to get even half of book value for Lionel down here in south Florida, sort of thought that it was the area here but now I think that Greenberg is way-overpriced in thier values of Lionel and other trains, and not 100% accarate. Mainly I use the Greenberg Guide to see if a price is TOO high or a variation that was not made, some people like to repaint some of the Lionel trains for what they like. Also Greenberg's Guide don't say about having the original box that something came in or if it does it is only in the index or back page.
I have a variation on a 1938 locomtive and tender that Greenberg's Guide does not list, a 249E with a 2225T tender, and has a 2653 hopper in the set. The 2653 hopper was mentioned as being rare in a set for that year by an article in CTT. The reason that I know this one is an original is that my dad gave it to me in the 1970's, and my dad did not know about buying extra stuff to match-up something with.
One option would be for you to contact a local hobby store or Model RR club and ask if they have anyone who can give you a fair appraisal of the trains, condition and value. This will give you a better idea of what you have. Then, you can either go to a auction site as mentioned above, or put an add in the paper or, you can contact CTT (owners of this site) and place a add in the back. In the end, they are only worth what someone is willing to pay. Remember, the auction sites are going to get a percentage of the sale price.
Regards,
Dennis
TCA#09-63805
list them in the Buy/Sell/Trade Forum on MTJ:
follow this link ----->>> http://www.modeltrainjournal.com/phpBB2/index.php
phillyreading wrote: Frank53, Are you saying that Greenberg prices are inflated? Like too high? Lee F.
Are you saying that Greenberg prices are inflated? Like too high?
take a wild guess Lee.
As a postwar buyer, it is tough to overcome the perception of a person who has inherited trains with a Greenberg book in hand who claims their trains are in "excellent" condition or "like new" condition and think their New York Central F3's are worth $1500.00, because Greenberg says so.
I had an opportunity to buy a fair amount of trains from a person who had inherited a collection. Nothing rare or spectacular, just nice solid post war trains in run worthy condition. I run them as opposed to collect them, and my goal is to acquire material in condition similar to those I have.
I selected a number of pieces from her list and asked for prices - all Greenberg left most column.
I did go to a fair amount of trouble to point out the differences in condition and the fallacy which is Greenberg, but I was perceived as someone who was trying to rip her off. After hearing the same story from the next several prospective buyers, she got the hint and sold them for less than I had offered.
Kind of sucked to be first in line on that one, as she had some nice material.
Hello Shane,
The track don't bring much at all used, unless it is T-Rail that bolts together. The ZW transformer may bring up to $200.00, but you will need to add shipping costs as this one is heavy to ship. Accessories may bring a good price but must be in good shape both physically and in working order for top dollar, if a decal is missing it may still bring good money but if the roof or ladder is missing down goes the value! The Lionel # 6257 caboose is worth very little even in good shape, save the frame if the shell is damaged.
The prices I am quoting are from Greenberg's Price Guide.
1682 caboose- 33 to 42, red Lionel, $17 to $40
1680 tank car- 33 to 42, IVES TANK LINES $80 to $95, NO IVES $19 to $34
624 C & O NW2 52 to 54, $135 to $235
2466 NO separate listing! comes with a steam locomotive.
2440 green pullman 46 to 47 $25 to $60
671 steam 6-8-6 (wheel arrangement) 46 to 49, with 671W tender $120 to $$215, with 2671W tender $150 to $270
671R steam 46 to 49 with either tender # 4424W or 4671 $130 to $280
654 NO Listing/incomplete number
3461 operating log car 49 to 55, black car $15 to $40, green car $28 to $65
6457 SP type caboose, 49 to 52, $19 to $36
6465 Sunoco two dome tank car, 48 to 56, $6 to $18
2441 green observation 46 to 47, $22 to $55
2025 steam 2-6-2 or 2-6-4, 47 to 49 & 52, with either 2466W or 6466W tender, $65 to $145
6460 Bucyrus Erie black cab crane 52 to 54, $18 to $50 with black cab, $29 to $80 with red cab
6462 Pennsylvania gondola black, 49, $10 to $25
6462 NYC(New York Central) 49 to 57, black $9 to $14, green $8 to $25, red $5 to $17
6560 Bucyrus Erie crane with (smoke?)stack,55 to 58 &68 to 69, reddish orange or black cab $65 to $160, gray cab $40 to $75, red cab $24 to $45, dark blue(Hagerstown) $40 to $85
Remember these are book prices, the low for poor quality or parts missing or faded paint, high price for excellant quality and looking like brand new and needs to have the original boxes from Lionel Trains. Repainted trains will not bring good prices!! Hope this helps you!
Lee F
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